Yes. Fairly straight forward, isn't it Elizabeth?
Unless one's vision is clouded by anger and/or jealousy.
Apparently someone has an axe to grind against a good man.
Linton
I sure hope the original poster has had some off-list responses to his
hijacked question.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Elizabeth Warner" <[email protected]>
To: "meteoritelist" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: Re: Fw: Request > Glorieta Mountain
strewnfield map
Even I figured this one out... yes, it says "unknown" down in the
Geography section, but if you read up near the top in the Writeup section,
it clearly says
Writeup from MB 97:
Whetstone Mountains
Arizona, United States [location information to be withheld until
publication in MAPS]
I imagine that once MAPS is published, that those two parts of the page
will get updated accordingly...
Clear Skies!
Elizabeth
[email protected] wrote:
--
Carl or Debbie Esparza
Meteoritemax
Jack,
I am so sorry. I guess I am mistaken.
I mean the place where it says Coordinates "Unknown" must have meant
something else? Where exactly is "unknown", AZ? see link
http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/index.php?sea=Whetstone+Mountains&sfor=names&ants=&falls=&valids=&stype=contains&lrec=50&map=ge&browse=&country=All&srt=name&categ=All&mblist=All&rect=&phot=&snew=0&pnt=Normal%20table&code=49514
I guess I thought that since it shows up in the bulletin that the
mapping was already done. By the way I did say "Nothing personal here
but as always it's who you know I guess. sorry." So, I say again nothing
personal here but as always it's who you know. Sorry!
So, where are you getting the latest one you found classified? Because
it is not the third AZ fall is it? Carl
--
Carl or Debbie Esparza
Meteoritemax
---- Jack Schrader <[email protected]> wrote:
Carl, Since you posted your comment to the list in regards to myself
and my son, I am going to comment openly on this list in reply. The
University of Arizona was immediately supplied with the coordinates of
the Whetstone Mountains area fall. The U of A would not classify the
sample of WM without the coordinates, nor could the meteorite be
officially recognized by the Meteoritical Society without the exact
coordinates. The coordinates were withheld as a courtesy to allow for
the proper mapping of the strewnfield. Apparently, the Meteoritical
Society and the University of Arizona find the data not only useful but
very valuable as well.
I take great exception to your implications in your post that I
received favored treatment from the U of A because my son is a graduate
student there. Great exception to your ignorant comment! I am
actually fuming at the moment! My son Devin had absolutely nothing to
do with the classification of the meteorite or the fact that the
classification was accepted by the U of A and accomplished so quickly.
The University of Arizona accepted this for classification due solely
to the fact that it was the first Arizona fall recovered in 97 years
and was recovered in their own back yard. It had nothing to do with my
son or "who you know". The fall was historic and important to my Alma
Mater, the University of Arizona. If you do not know what you are
talking about, then I suggest you keep your mouth shut. You owe my son
Devin and myself an apology for your ignorant and uncalled for
comments.
Dr. Jack L. Schrader
----- Forwarded Message ----
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]; [email protected]; Greg Stanley
<[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 3:04:07 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Request > Glorieta Mountain strewnfield
map
Greg,
I'm not saying they are useless. I am just saying for scientific
knowledge they are not all that important. I'm just saying that I don't
like having my new find classification held up because I don't want to
share co-ords at this time. that's all. Although depending on who you
are you may be able to get it done without co-ords. If you are say,
someone named Jack and your son works at U of A Planetary sciences
perhaps? Nothing personal here but as always it's who you know I guess.
sorry.
And by the way. I don't remember where I found that
beautiful blood red ruby. Why do you ask? If I happen to remember, you
will be the first to know. NOT! --
Carl or Debbie Esparza
Meteoritemax
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