First you say  "All I know is that people  that use sniper  programs are 
getting ripped off 
because eBay does the  same thing for  free."

Shawn Alan 

Then you say    "So the morel to the story is, if you want the item, then 
you will do anything  to get it. If this means you wait to the last seconds 
to bid, or hire a third  party to bid for you, or put a max bid in a day 
before the bid ends, you do what  ever it takes :) But at the end of the day 
what comes down to it is who placed  the highest bid in the allotted time. "

Shawn Alan

So first you  lay down a stupid insult and then you follow it up with Yoda  
wisdom?

Tom


In a message dated 3/17/2010 10:31:00 P.M.  Mountain Daylight Time, 
photoph...@yahoo.com writes:
Hello list  again,

I have been bidding and watching an item on eBay for the past few  days and 
I wish I had gotton the 46g Norton Meteorite at $600 or so but that  wasn't 
the case. Before I went down in the subway to go home I got on my phone  to 
watch the clock tick on the eBay item I was wishing I could get but I knew 
It  wasn't going to happen. 

As the clock went down the price stayed  steady for the remaining 4 
minutes. But it wasn't till the last few seconds that  the price went from $800 
to 
$850 and I thought to myself, WOW the winner is  going to make a killing. In 
the back of my head I was wishing I was him/her but  I don't have the 
leisure to spend that much on a meteorite. But when I thought  it was over it 
wasn't and when the clock stopped the auction was over and the  winning bidder 
got the Norton County meteorite at $1,225 not to mention its from  Dr LaPaz 
estate, what a deal. Here is a link of the auction.....  

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=230447906846&showauto=t
rue

At  any rate the winner got a great meteorite and did it smart. If I had 
money and I  knew I would do anything to get it, I would place my bid at 
$3000, that's a  guaranty that I would get, but again, it could lead to high 
costs if I have  someone else that wants it more then me. 

So the morel to the story is,  if you want the item, then you will do 
anything to get it. If this means you  wait to the last seconds to bid, or hire 
a 
third party to bid for you, or put a  max bid in a day before the bid ends, 
you do what ever it takes :) But at the  end of the day what comes down to 
it is who placed the highest bid in the  allotted time. 

Shawn Alan




[meteorite-list] The Sniper  Mentality
Richard Kowalski damoclid at yahoo.com 
Wed Mar 17 19:58:00 EDT  2010 

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This  mentality, waiting until the last few seconds before bidding, is 
something I  just don't get. Maybe someone can explain it to me. 

I bid for lots on  ebay just like I do when I bid at a real auction. I set 
in my head what I  believe the value of an item and what I have available in 
my budget to bid for  that item. I then bid that much and no more. If I get 
the item, great. If not,  someone wanted it more and we're willing to pay 
more for the item...  

While I will sometimes raise my ebay bid a little before the end of the  
auction, I really don't understand the idea of sitting there and in the last  
second or two, to try to jam in bids high enough to win the item. 

Do  snipers really want the item or are they just trying to screw others 
out of the  item? Are they just trying to get the item at a lower price, 
thinking that their  competitors will just rebid again, upping the price? 

I see this on  meteorite auctions every so often, but much more often on 
the Daguerreotypes I  bid on. The reason I was reminded of it was a lot I just 
lost out on. There  wasn't just one sniper, but two. The both bid at the 
exact same time, 2 seconds  before the auction ended... 

As I said, it doesn't mater that I lost the  lot. It went for more than I 
was willing to pay, so I wouldn't have rebid even  if I could. 

Possibly someone can explain what is gained by bidding like  this instead 
of just bidding what you think it's worth and letting it go for  that... 

I'd really like to see ebay eliminate this foolery. It'd be  pretty simple. 
Any bids that occur within one minute of the closing time of the  auction 
automatically resets the end time by 10 minutes, or 30 minutes. The  snipers 
games are eliminated and the dealers (and ebay) gets more profits  because 
the auction remains open for the bidding to continue to higher levels.  Just 
like in a real live auction. 

Thanks 

-- 
Richard Kowalski  
Full Moon Photography 
IMCA #1081  




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