Hi, Larry, List,

Well, you can only tell so much by looking,
either in pictures or in person. It's so tiny
that testing must seem certain to destroy
it, but I think there's a way.

A SEM (Scanning Electron Microscope)
Microprobe using the data from the back-
scattered electrons can detect and measure
the elemental composion of the surface
the probe is "looking at." In other words,
it's possible to determine its composition
non-destructively.

A tiny scratch down to bare metal and
you're there. I have no idea where or who
you could get to do it, but in years past,
I have heard Listees talking about having
it done (or doing it).


Sterling K. Webb
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Hello list,
This will be short for now, my computer is in the shop.
First, I'm havin fun!
Second, I thought it may be a little controversial though it may be a bit more so than I thought. Next I'll say that the object is smaller than might be apparent. I'll show more pictures later. I can say it is smaller than any grommet I've seen. I'll also say that I thought it was a shoe lace eye when I first saw it, it is however too small. It has a rollover lip that curls like a wave nearly all the way around and the hole in the center is blown outward, not very apparent in the image.

With all due respect to Sterling and the other nay sayers, let me point out a scenario that you are not considering. I have several, and have seen many others with holes punched into, and sometimes nearly through the little iron. I have a perfect example of this I will show when I get my computer back and can post pics. This phenomenon has been observed in SIkhote Alin as well. Perhaps not a complete penetration but big splashes nonetheless. This has happened in Franconia where the irons are tiny and whatever it is that makes these splash forms was able to pass all the way through an already flight oriented meteorite.

Sure, it may not be a meteorite, that is understood by me, I'll have it tested if I can. However, I do believe the odds are in favor of SaW 005 being the origin ; )

Humbly Confident
Larry Atkins
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From: "JoshuaTreeMuseum" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 15:25:59
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [meteorite-list] FW: Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 8,
2010

Hi Joe,

You misunderstood my post. I never said the links were from Larry, the Franconia meteorwrong guy. They're from some other meteorwrong guy. But I guess I can see how you infered that. I was trying to illustrate the point that something found in a known strewn field doth not a meteorite maketh.


Phil Whitmer



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Those ebay links you provided were not listed by Larry, the guy who owns the Franconia iron, which I believe could very well be an iron meteorite, but
not 100% sure.
I have some Franonia irons with odd shapes as well, The roll over lip make
me think it could very well be authentic. Also the the raised portion
leading up to the hole in the center does not appear to be of even size all the way around, which it would be if it were a button. I think also the size make it a slim chance it is a button. Also the metal around the hole is not uniform and is more flattened and rolled over one one side. Dont think it is a wrong, but like I said I cant be sure, but Larry is a very knowledgeable guy who knows his meteorites, if he says it is a meteorite after having it for a few years and examining it in person, I will take his word for it until proved wrong. If I had to pay cash for it, I may then think about
having it examined further. But A great collection piece either way.


Best Wishes,
Joe Kerchner
http://illinoismeteorites.com

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