Hmmm....this one is weirdo, Listoids. On my top shelf of my main display cabinet, for the last few years, I have experienced and documented incremental movement by many of my specimens relative to each other. My neighbor called me wacko, after I told him about it...how we can see the trail in the dust on the glass shelf....so for days we'd measure the distance between a standing CD and an idividual 340 gram Seymchan siderite, and over 5 weeks they eventually moved 5 cms and ended up touching. (The CD moved toward the Seymchan which never moved at all.) All the while a tall standing slice of NWA3118 did a 180 and stopped in it's new place. There was also an oriented Sikhote that did a quarter turn and stopped. A Micro West, TX moved over two inches, like desert rocks on the salt flat, leaving a dust trail....meanwhile all other specimens stayed exacly in place. The dust trails were distinct! (This cabinet can't be opened without self-standing slices falling over and leaving dust evidence of disturbance, so I've ruled out a boogie-man-woman opening the blocked cabinet door.)

(NO, I don't have blood DNA in a martian meteorite with little red arrows pointing selling on eBay.)

We figure it's the house settling or micro movement in the foundation.

Wooooga Woooga!!!!



----- Original Message ----- From: "Meteorites USA" <[email protected]>
To: "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Meteorite-list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites are very powerful stones!


Hi Mike, List,

I think you misunderstand my meaning of 'all'... I was certainly not referring to my "particular brand" of beliefs at "all". ;)

On the contrary, I subscribe to no specific orthodox religious, dogmatic, or doctrinal belief system. I study religions and scientific theory equally, and dismiss nothing without careful analysis, logical consideration, reason, and personal spiritual meaning. I take into account and weigh everything with regard to my own personal beliefs. I also don't preach... Much... ;)

You asked "How would you feel if I started pointing out things that I thought were silly about your religion?" Again, read above... It makes no difference as I'm completely and 100% open minded to considering all belief systems (including yours) as possible methods of explaining anything and/or everything, just as I see science as a perfectly viable tool to explain everything.

"...And what's with the warning?..."

No warning... I was referring to mistakenly grouping all religions neatly into a self imposed ideological neatness. Religion (not personal belief) is an historical system of accepted beliefs based in supernatural, superstitious, cultural and generational oration, myth, legend, and subjective interpretations of observations of the natural world since the beginning of humanity. There are natural and scientific reasons for everything. Religion by definition, is also an institutional invention created by subjective human interpretations of natural observations which are simply not completely explainable by science nor religion, yet.

Religion itself is merely a word. Your belief is yours personally...

"...Does your particular brand of superstition somehow deserve special consideration, despite an equal lack of scientific evidence?...'

No... Because I have no superstitions. Maybe OCD, but not superstitions... ;)

I believe that religion and science will one day realize an epiphany that both are trying to explain the same things from different intrinsic and very human perspectives. Science by evidenced observation, and religion by faith. I do not attack one nor attach to either individually, but rather weigh everything as a whole. It is, after all, only naturally open and tolerant to do so.

Regards,
Eric





On 7/2/2010 11:34 AM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks wrote:
Hi Eric and List,

I am merely making a point.  All religious systems are equally valid
under the eyes of science.

And what's with the warning?  Does your particular brand of
superstition somehow deserve special consideration, despite an equal
lack of scientific evidence?

How would you feel if I started pointing out things that I thought
were silly about your religion?

America is supposed to be about tolerance.  That is the only point I
was trying to make.

I'll shut up now before I come across to mainstream religious folk the
same way you came across to non-mainstream religious folk.

Best regards,

MikeG

PS - at least New Agers have a deep respect for all things natural.
You don't see crystal-rubbers out trashing our environment.



On 7/2/10, Meteorites USA<[email protected]>  wrote:

Be careful with the word 'all'.

Eric


On 7/2/2010 11:20 AM, Galactic Stone&  Ironworks wrote:

Hi List,

There is an equal amount of scientific evidence to support all
religious belief systems.

Best regards,

MikeG


On 7/2/10, Meteorites USA<[email protected]>   wrote:


Hi Mike, Attempts to be philosophical by quoting "Spies Like Us" is one
thing. Implying we don't understand "new age" belief systems is quite
another.

Ignorance mistakes the natural for supernatural. - Me

Regards,
Eric



On 7/2/2010 10:34 AM, Galactic Stone&   Ironworks wrote:


We mock what we do not understand.  While I personally do not
subscribe to these beliefs - many people do. I have several customers who purchase meteorites for New Age purposes - and their money is just
as green as everyone elses.  Please send all such customers my way
where they will be greeted with a smile and an open mind.


On 7/2/10, Meteorites USA<[email protected]>    wrote:



"...Meteorites should NOT be used in elixirs at all..."
http://pagan-writing.blogspot.com/2010/07/meteorites.html

Regards,
Eric Wichman
Meteorites USA
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