Hi Carl

>In fact we cannot know with 100% certainty that we even have rocks from Mars.




http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040414a.html

'Bounce' and Shergotty Share Common Ground

This illustration compares the spectrum of "Bounce," a rock at Meridiani 
Planum, to that of a martian meteorite found on Earth called Shergotty. 
Bounce's spectrum, and thus mineral composition, is unique to the rocks studied 
so far at Merdiani Planum and Gusev Crater, the landings sites of the Mars 
Exploration Rovers Opportunity and Spirit. However, the results here indicate 
that Bounce is not a one-of-a-kind rock, but shares origins with Shergotty. 
Shergotty landed in India in 1865. Bounce's spectra were taken on sol 67 by 
Opportunity's Mössbauer spectrometer. 


Meteorite Linked to Rock at Meridiani

This meteorite, a basalt lava rock nearly indistinguishable from many Earth 
rocks, provided the first strong proof that meteorites could come from Mars. 
Originally weighing nearly 8 kilograms (17.6 pounds), it was collected in 1979 
in the Elephant Moraine area of Antarctica. The side of the cube at the lower 
left in this image measures 1 centimeter (0.4 inches). 

This picture shows a sawn face of this fine-grained gray rock. (The vertical 
stripes are saw marks.) The black patches in the rock are melted rock, or 
glass, formed when a large meteorite hit Mars near the rock. The meteorite 
impact probably threw this rock, dubbed "EETA79001," off Mars and toward 
Antarctica on Earth. The black glass contains traces of martian atmosphere 
gases. 

The Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity has discovered that a rock dubbed 
"Bounce" at Meridiani Planum has a very similar mineral composition to this 
meteorite and likely shares common origins. Bounce itself is thought to have 
originated outside the area surrounding Opportunity's landing site; an impact 
or collision likely threw the rock away from its primary home. 



 'Bounce' and Martian Meteorite of the Same Mold

These two sets of bar graphs compare the elemental compositions of six martian 
rocks: "Bounce," located at Meridiani Planum; EETA79001-B, a martian meteorite 
found in Antarctica in 1979; a rock found at the Mars Pathfinder landing site; 
Shergotty, a martian meteorite that landed in India in 1865; "Adirondack," 
located at Gusev Crater; and "Humphrey," also located at Gusev Crater. The 
graph on the left compares magnesium/iron ratios in the rocks, and the graph on 
the right compares aluminum/calcium ratios. The results illustrate the 
diversity of rocks on Mars and indicate that Bounce probably shares origins 
with the martian meterorite EETA79001-B. The Bounce data was taken on sol 68 by 
the alpha particle X-ray spectrometer on Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity. 
 


Best!
Martin





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Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. September 2010 20:05
An: Aubrey Whymark
Cc: meteoritelist
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Origin of Tektites

Aubrey,
Thank you for that.
As a critical thinker I believe you have to go with the odds until proven 
otherwise.
I mean even Stephen Hawking  thinks there is life elsewhere. This in spite of 
the fact that we have zero evidence to back up that claim.
He recently stated that he believes a "God" would not have been necessary for 
life to have begun here on Earth.  Again, this conclusion was made based on a 
gazzillion missing pieces to the puzzle. A few facts and a lot of beliefs.
The truth is that,  that is how Science works. It is based as much on beliefs 
as actual facts in evidence. ie, so far no evidence of life elsewhere. In fact 
we cannot know with 100% certainty that we even have rocks from Mars. I believe 
that we do but, my opinion does not make it so. We have not sampled the 
atmosphere of every other alternative out there yet so, until we do there is no 
way to be certain. In fact we now know that other space rocks actually share 
Earth's O isotopes. This makes the puzzle pieces even greater in numbers. 
So, when you look at Tektites, the obvious origin is Earth. That is possibly 
until scientific facts get in the way.  So far it seems the facts are leaning 
in the direction that  tektites originated on Earth.
The $10,000 dollar question in most of our minds is only; How they formed?
Science tells us what it would take to form tektites but, not how. The how is 
still a mystery depending on whom you believe.
It seems to me based on all of the opposing opinions by really smart people 
that, we have no proven answer. Yet. 
For this and many other reasons, namely process of elimination, I lean towards 
the lightning related causes. 
Lightning still being a relatively unknown phenomenon it seems to have room to 
squeeze tektites into it's realm. 
Maybe even lightning associated with a volcano as seen recently in the  
Icelandic volcano Eyjafjallajoekull, or Eyjafjöll,  where there is clearly 
photographic evidence of lightning 
erupting in an upward direction from the ground up into the sky during it's 
eruption process.
I am told that lightning is one of the least understood phenomenon on Earth. 
my conclusion so far is Lightning is the culprit. Maybe!
My 2 grams.
Carl. 
--
Carl or Debbie Esparza
Meteoritemax


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