Okay, So how does the lesson change because it was written by somebody else? Are the facts wrong? Maybe it was written by Joe Blow? -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax
---- "Rose wrote: > Albert Einstein was Jewish, so this was invented or altered. > David > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pete Pete > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:18 AM > To: [email protected]; meteoritelist meteoritelist > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT transpermia vs. God vs. Science > > > > > SNOPES says that this is a bs, invented story: > > http://www.snopes.com/religion/einstein.asp > http://www.snopes.com/religion/einstein.asp > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:56:47 -0500 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [meteorite-list] OT transpermia vs. God vs. Science > > > > > > I thought this was interesting enough to share here; > > Just food for thought. > > > > > The professor and student are for real! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll be surprised who the student is...they'll tell you at the end. > > > > > > > > > "Let me explain the problem science has with religion." > > > > > > > > > The atheist professor of philosophy pauses before his class and then asks > > > one of his new students to stand. > > > > > > 'You're a Christian, aren't you, son?' > > > > > > 'Yes sir,' the student says. > > > > > > 'So you believe in God?' > > > > > > 'Absolutely ' > > > > > > 'Is God good?' > > > > > > 'Sure! God's good.' > > > > > > 'Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?' > > > > > > 'Yes' > > > > > > 'Are you good or evil?' > > > > > > 'The Bible says I'm evil.' > > > > > > The professor grins knowingly. 'Aha! The Bible! He considers for a > > > moment. 'Here's one for you. Let's say there's a sick person over here > > > and you can cure him. You can do it. Would you help him? Would you try?' > > > > > > 'Yes sir, I would.' > > > > > > 'So you're good...!' > > > > > > 'I wouldn't say that.' > > > > > > 'But why not say that? You'd help a sick and maimed person if you could. > > > Most of us would if we could. But God doesn't.' > > > > > > The student does not answer, so the professor continues. 'He doesn't, > > > does he? My brother was a Christian who died of cancer, even though he > > > prayed to Jesus to heal him. How is this Jesus good? Can you answer that > > > one?' > > > > > > The student remains silent. 'No, you can't, can you?' the professor says. > > > He takes a sip of water from a glass on his desk to give the student time > > > to relax. 'Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?' > > > > > > 'Er..yes,' the student says. > > > > > > 'Is Satan good?' > > > > > > The student doesn't hesitate on this one.. 'No.' > > > > > > 'Then where does Satan come from?' > > > > > > The student falters. 'From God' > > > > > > 'That's right. God made Satan, didn't he? Tell me, son. Is there evil in > > > this world?' > > > > > > 'Yes, sir.' > > > > > > 'Evil's everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything, correct?' > > > > > > 'Yes' > > > > > > 'So who created evil?' The professor continued, 'If God created > > > everything, then God created evil, since evil exists, and according to > > > the principle that our works define who we are, then God is evil.' > > > > > > Again, the student has no answer. 'Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? > > > Ugliness? All these terrible things, do they exist in this world?' > > > > > > The student squirms on his feet. 'Yes.' > > > > > > 'So who created them ?' > > > > > > The student does not answer again, so the professor repeats his question. > > > 'Who created them?' There is still no answer. Suddenly the lecturer > > > breaks away to pace in front of the classroom. The class is mesmerized. > > > 'Tell me,' he continues onto another student. 'Do you believe in Jesus > > > Christ, son?' > > > > > > The student's voice betrays him and cracks. 'Yes, professor, I do.' > > > > > > The old man stops pacing. 'Science says you have five senses you use to > > > identify and observe the world around you. Have you ever seen Jesus?' > > > > > > 'No sir. I've never seen Him.' > > > > > > 'Then tell us if you've ever heard your Jesus?' > > > > > > 'No, sir, I have not.' > > > > > > 'Have you ever felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your Jesus? > > > Have you ever had any sensory perception of Jesus Christ, or God for that > > > matter?' > > > > > > 'No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't.' > > > > > > 'Yet you still believe in him?' > > > > > > 'Yes' > > > > > > 'According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, > > > science says your God doesn't exist... What do you say to that, son?' > > > > > > 'Nothing,' the student replies.. 'I only have my faith.' > > > > > > 'Yes, faith,' the professor repeats. 'And that is the problem science has > > > with God. There is no evidence, only faith.' > > > > > > The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking a question of His > > > own. 'Professor, is there such thing as heat? ' > > > > > > ' Yes. > > > > > > 'And is there such a thing as cold?' > > > > > > 'Yes, son, there's cold too.' > > > > > > 'No sir, there isn't.' > > > > > > The professor turns to face the student, obviously interested. The room > > > suddenly becomes very quiet. The student begins to explain. 'You can have > > > lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, unlimited heat, > > > white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don't have anything called > > > 'cold'. We can hit down to 458 degrees below zero, which is no heat, but > > > we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold; > > > otherwise we would be able to go colder than the lowest -458 degrees. > > > Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits > > > energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy.. > > > Absolute zero (-458 F) is the total absence of heat. You see, sir, cold > > > is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure > > > cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units because heat is energy. Cold > > > is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.' > > > > > > Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom, sounding > > > like a hammer. > > > > > > 'What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?' > > > > > > 'Yes,' the professor replies without hesitation. 'What is night if it > > > isn't darkness?' > > > > > > 'You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something; it is the absence of > > > something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing > > > light, but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and it's > > > called darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to define the word. > > > In reality, darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make > > > darkness darker, wouldn't you?' > > > > > > The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him. This will > > > be a good semester. 'So what point are you making, young man?' > > > > > > 'Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to > > > start with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed.' > > > > > > The professor's face cannot hide his surprise this time. 'Flawed? Can you > > > explain how?' > > > > > > 'You are working on the premise of duality,' the student explains.. 'You > > > argue that there is life and then there's death; a good God and a bad > > > God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we > > > can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought.' 'It uses > > > electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood > > > either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of > > > the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the > > > opposite of life, just the absence of it.' 'Now tell me, professor. Do > > > you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?' > > > > > > 'If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, > > > yes, of course I do.' > > > > > > 'Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?' > > > > > > The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he realizes > > > where the argument is going. A very good semester, indeed. > > > > > > 'Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and > > > cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not > > > teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a preacher?' > > > > > > The class is in uproar. The student remains silent until the commotion > > > has subsided. 'To continue the point you were making earlier to the other > > > student, let me give you an example of what I mean.' The student looks > > > around the room. 'Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the > > > professor's brain?' The class breaks out into laughter. 'Is there anyone > > > here who has ever heard the professor's brain, felt the professor's > > > brain, touched or smelt the professor's brain? No one appears to have > > > done so.. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, > > > demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, with all due > > > respect, sir.' 'So if science says you have no brain, how can we trust > > > your lectures, sir?' > > > > > > Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the student, his > > > face unreadable. Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man > > > answers. 'I Guess you'll have to take them on faith.' > > > > > > 'Now, you accept that there is faith, and, in fact, faith exists with > > > life,' the student continues. 'Now, sir, is there such a thing as evil?' > > > Now uncertain, the professor responds, 'Of course, there is. We see it > > > Everyday. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man. It is in > > > The multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world.. These > > > manifestations are nothing else but evil.' > > > > > > To this the student replied, 'Evil does not exist sir, or at least it > > > does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God.. It is > > > just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the > > > absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what > > > happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like > > > the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when > > > there is no light.' > > > > > > The professor sat down. > > > > > > If you read it all the way through and had a smile on your face when you > > > finished, mail to your friends and family with the title 'God vs. Science' > > > > > > PS: The student was Albert Einstein. > > > > > > Albert Einstein wrote the book titled'God vs. Science' in 1921..... > > > > > > > > Carl > > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > ______________________________________________ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > P Please consider the impact to the environment before printing this > email. > > > > > > > P Please consider the impact to the environment before printing this > email. > > > ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list [email protected] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
