Mr. Moreno, I have been following your thread and, while I haven't been able to figure out your motives or your point, you are being extraordinarily unreasonable and now have become abusive. Mark has been responsive and should be commended for his attention to this group, but don't shoot the messenger, Mr. Moreno. Mark does not make policy for SDRC and you must realize that CAM, in SDRC's eyes, is now part of a much larger CAD/CAD/CAE/PDM/B2B/e strategy and NOT just standalone CAM functionality. Like it or not, this has been a decision that has been made by the stock holders, the board of directors and the executives of SDRC (of which Mark is certainly NOT two out of three but, despite your glowing reviews, may be someday). In spite of your recent move from some dark cave, this is not news to anyone else here.
So, if you have great ideas about CAM software development, start a CAM company. Otherwise assume you have made your point or dropped your smelly old troll bait and get off Mark's ass. -- Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: Albert Moreno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 4:20 PM Subject: [mfg-smartcam] mfg-smartcam > Dear SmartCAM users, > > I now understand why so many of you distrust and despise SDRC. I pre- > sented Mr. McCoy with direct and precise questions and observations > about SDRC's current direction and level of product development in CAD\ > CAM in comparison with UG Solutions. Unfortunately, rather than exercise > his own intellect, he parroted his master's line. Read and Enjoy! > > Mark McCoy wrote: > > > SDRC's policies on this matter have been very extensively communicated and our plans have > > been broadly publicized and have not changed. I consequently see no need to again reiterate > > or justify that position and I, especially consider- ing the tone of your original message and > > even more inflammatory response, have no desire or intention of continuing this dialog. > > > > Albert Moreno wrote: > > > > Mr. McCoy > > > > As I expected, you gave a typical Clintonian answer, without any evidence of > > intellectual integrity you failed to respond to almost all of my questions. Un- > > fortunately Mr. McCoy, you typify the post-modern cooperate hack, a syco- > > phant that has never had an original I-DEA since birth. I know that your in- > > tellectual gifts may not allow you to comprehend all of my questions, how- > > ever, please try! If you do not understand or if you do not posses the nec- > > essary information, FIND SOMEONE WHO DOES!!! > > > > Mr. Moreno: > > > > The separate Camand products continue to be available but we offer product bundles that > > include I-DEAS capability that are more attractive from a price perspective. > > > > Two release cycles ago SDRC made some bold decisions based on the market input we were > > receiving from our customers and VAR partners. Those cus- tomers and VARs were demanding > > functionality requirements that would be impossible to meet while attempting to develop three > > separate products. Many of these expectations were based on environment capabilities that > > are inherit to the I-DEAS product family. It was also evident that the future would present a > > market that would expect solids based machining capabilities that were integra- ted and > > associated rather than just interfaced. It would also not be a wise finan- cial business > > decision to continue to have these valuable and talented developers continue to enhance > > products that developed a relatively small revenue stream. This is why the development staff > > that created SmartCAM and Camand were reassigned to develop new functionality in I-DEAS > > Generative Machining. The progress this has made possible is evident in I-DEAS 8. I-DEAS 8 is > > the first release to benefit fully from the efforts of the reassigned developers since dur- > > ing the development of I-DEAS 7 SDRC also released four versions of Camand and SmartCAM. > > I-DEAS 8 is set for first customer shipment next month and includes more specific CAM > > enhancement than any prior release of SDRC CAM functionality. > > > Mark > > McCoy > > Marketing Manager - CAM SDRC > > > Albert Moreno wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. McCoy > > > > Can I buy a seat of Camand Machinist or Multax without the purchase of > > additional SDRC software? > > > > Will SDRC ever admit that they should scrap GenMach and develop Camand? I have read many > > ICCON messages and too many have stated that GenMach 6 is virtually useless. I have > > comunicated with individuals that own SmartCAM and GenMach and they have scraped GenMach > > and continue to use their FFM seats. > > > The ex-Camand Var's and users have told me that SDRC has lost or forced out all or almost > > all of the coders that developed Camand and corporate pride or stupidity combined with the NIH > > (not invented here) mentality has crippled the development of GenMach. SDRC has > > attempted to develop GenMach for five or six years now and many users still believe that > > GenMach 7 can neither equal SmartCAM in ease of use or Camand Machnist or Multax in > > functionality. > > > > SDRC continues to lose ground to UG Solutions and their CAD\CAM develop- ments. They have > > converted their Parasolid Kernel from a single to a multi- threaded architecture Dec. 98; SDRC > > has yet to do so for it's proprietary Solid Modeling Kernel! With V16, UG Solutions now has a > > NATIVE NT version of their entire suite of CAD\CAM Sep. 99; SDRC has yet to do so for > > I-DEAS, Master Series, or GenMach! UG Solutions continiues to develop their 5 axis > > CAM software Variable-Axis Milling; SDRC has ceased development of Multax and by all accounts > > has lost the development team reponsible for Multax! > > > > I would reasemble the Point Control people that produced SmartCAM's Advanced Turning Package > > and all of Camand's developers for my dream CAM package. My dream CAM Milling package > > would have SmartCAM's ease of use and Camand's powerful cutting algorithms, multithreaded > > code for every CAM operation that could benifit from this architecture, SDRC's NEW NT > > NATIVE multithreaded proprietary Solid Modeling Kernel, the ability to scale up to as many > > as sixteen processors, and have full Open GL complience. My dream Lathe package would use > > multithreaded code for every Lathe operation that could benifit from this architecture and > > take SmartCAM's powerful Advanced Turning and ease of use and combine it with the best > > parts of Camand's Lathe pakage along with Camand's Multax, and SDRC's NEW NT NATIVE > > multithreaded proprietary Solid Modeling Kernel to pro- duce the world's best 9 axis > > Mill-Turn CAM program for machines like Mazak's Integrex MillTurn machines. > > > Albert Moreno [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ====================================================================== > To find out more about this mailing list including how to unsubscribe, > send the message "info mfg-smartcam" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ====================================================================== > ====================================================================== To find out more about this mailing list including how to unsubscribe, send the message "info mfg-smartcam" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ======================================================================
