Howadays we work with Mastercam (ugh!!!) and SmartCAM, but we are looking for a software to change the two ones. Firstly, I found a lot of softwares. I found a lot of different softwares in the web, FeatureCAM, BobCAD/CAM, SolidCAM 2000, TebisCAM, Esprit, Vero International - Visi CAM, EdgeCAM and others...
I started to test EdgeCAM ... It is a incrible software, but it have some problems. It doesn't have some fundamentals cycles for me, like open profiles, work with two pieces at table machine (G54 and G55). It is a little difficult, in comparsion with SmartCAM. The macro language is very dificult to understand, and the price, here in Brazil, It is too much expensive. I work with MasterCam, here.... It doesn't work with macros ( for me, macros are very important). and its suport ... is terrible. The post is closed and we can�t create or change nothing. To make any modification we need to contact the MasterCA�M's support and They are "butchers"... I work with SmartCAM too, and it has only one problem. I�t's stopped! I need a new software, because I can't open a lo of drawings and other things. I have customized all my SmartCAM with Macros, and tool Libraryes. Anderson Fraga Angelucci T�cnico de Processos Polimold Industrial www.polimold.com.br ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Looney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pelly, Greg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Nigel Webb'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Al Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [mfg-smartcam] RE: MasterCAM or Esprit? > nice to hear from you greg. I am beginning to wonder if solids/associativity > is even worth it. I created an insert for a G-force fuel cell in solidworks, > left off the chamfers and fillets, pulled it into smartcam and programed it > very quickly. I pulled the same model into mastercam 9 with the fillets, > etc, included. good gravy, what a pain in the keister. since the holes have > fillets, mastercam didn't like it, it didn't like the pocket because the > ends were shaped for hex nuts and left small isolated areas near the points, > etc. i just picked the top pocket profile and roughed it out, drilled the > holes and made some money on it. > I'm beginning to think solids are no good for 2d stuff. > > bob > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pelly, Greg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Nigel Webb'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Al > Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 8:48 AM > Subject: RE: [mfg-smartcam] RE: MasterCAM or Esprit? > > > > EdgeCAM from Pathtrace in the UK works pretty well on "associativity" with > > sending 3D solids to Inventor /Solidworks. Feature recognition works very > > well, if you update your 3d design, in your design system, EdgeCAM will > > recognize and understand these changes. It will also automatically update > > the CAM paths, and Code with very little human interaction. It's not > > perfect yet, but who is? However, one drawback for some is that it's > still > > not bi-directional "associativity". EdgeCAM does not send "associativity" > > back to an Engineering Design system, it's a one way trip, but in most > > companies or cases this is best. Most others are in a two year lag or > > catch-up mode in comparison. MasterCAM and Gibbs have just started to > > really pull in solids to CAM with any associative nature. > > > > Best of luck and I hope this helps. I've included some optional URL's for > > your reading pleasure. > > > > www.edgecam.com > > http://www.edgecam.com/default.asp?goUrl=/uk/product/Solidmachinist.shtml > > > > Greg Pelly > > An Old SmartCAM - Point Control Int'l AE. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Nigel Webb > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 1:39 AM > > To: Al Jones; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [mfg-smartcam] RE: > > > > > > Try Edgecam from Pathtrace especially if you're looking at 3D work. It > > seemlessly link to Solidworks, SolidEdge & Autodesk (I can only vouch > > for Solidworks as this is how we use it). > > > > Edgecam with was our choice after we looked at, > > > > Delcam Power Shape/Mill, > > Mastercam, > > Teksoft Camworks, > > Feature Mill, > > Ideas Artizan/Manufacturing, > > NC Graphics Toolmaker/Machining Strategist, > > Gibbs, > > And a few more that I can not remember > > > > > > The main reason for choosing Edgecam was the link between Solidworks and > > Edgecam. It means the ability to work with customer models without > > having to redraw them. And because it is associative, if the customer > > alters his/her model Edgecam will update the machining! > > > > Other notes. > > > > Delcam - Fantastic product in 3D, not very good in 2D with tool comp, > > not associative when linking to Solidworks > > > > Mastercam - Very expensive > > > > Camworks - Excellent ease of use but always had issues on difficult > > machining > > > > Ideas - Just appeared very old > > > > NC Graphics - Just as good as Delcam in 3D, not very good at 2D > > > > Gibbs - Poor 3D machining cycles > > > > > > Nigel Webb > > Industrial Plastic Fabrications Ltd > > www.ipfl.co.uk > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Al Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 25 November 2002 21:59 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: > > > > We are about 1 week away from choosing between Mastercam & Esprit. > > Smartcam was my first and only cam system but we need to move into > > Solids. Any biased or unbiased comments about either system would be > > appreciated. > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Al Jones > > > > ====================================================================== > > To find out more about this mailing list including how to unsubscribe, > > send the message "info mfg-smartcam" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ====================================================================== > > > > > > ====================================================================== > > To find out more about this mailing list including how to unsubscribe, > > send the message "info mfg-smartcam" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ====================================================================== > > ====================================================================== > > To find out more about this mailing list including how to unsubscribe, > > send the message "info mfg-smartcam" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ====================================================================== > > > ====================================================================== > To find out more about this mailing list including how to unsubscribe, > send the message "info mfg-smartcam" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ====================================================================== ====================================================================== To find out more about this mailing list including how to unsubscribe, send the message "info mfg-smartcam" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ======================================================================
