Watch out eBay, here we come! ================================================== Fred Lauzus, CAM Programming Coordinator High Steel Structures, Incorporated mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.highsteel.com ==================================================
-----Original Message----- From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 10:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'smartcam user group' Subject: Re: [mfg-smartcam] Passing this through the group for a contact Fred, I recently posted a procedure approved by EDS (for a fee) for the transfer to be legal. It was in a previous message but I will attach it again in the event that you missed it. Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If anyone's questioning if they can legally sell or otherwise transfer their > SmartCAM software, the answer is no, no, NO! Not unless they can acquire the > written consent of SDRC/EDS. This is clearly stated in section 9.1 of the > v11 Software License Agreement (SLA). New Policy from EDS: I got this reply back from EDS about selling Smartcam, And the new customer getting codes etc. Normally, the process would be fairly straightforward. When a customer purchases software from us it's based on contractual terms which gives the customer the right to use the license's) in perpetuity, but the ownership of the software is still ours. The customer does not have the right to sell or transfer the software to another company without EDS approval. A contractual change would be accomplished through our sales organization - the company would be required to sign a contract with EDS, and typically there would be an Administrative Fee ($600) for our EDS Customer Service organization to make the changes in our Customer Data Base (setup the new company, transfer the license's) to them, provide new license codes). What complicates your inquiry is the SmartCAM software is no longer available for sale, there is no sales person or Reseller assigned to your account, there is no support or updates provided for the software. This means a lot of our contractual terms related to warranty, maintenance and support is not applicable so this would require the new company to acknowledge this. So, if you want to pursue this, you'll need to provide your Install # so that we can check it in the data base and identify someone to work with you on these administrative details. Keep in mind that if we don't go through some kind of formal process for the new company, when they called in for security codes they would not be validated in the system, so we would decline to provide the security codes. Sorry about the complications, but that is where it stands with this product line. Regards, Donn Mosher Account Support Supervisor EDS PLM Solutions 10824 Hope Street Cypress, CA 90630 (714) 952-5843 Office (714) 952-5600 Fax > > If the PC is transferred the licensee is responsible for removing the > software from the machine. This includes bankruptcy, tax auctions, > repossessions, etc... This is not a loop hole. > > When asking about "legal ramifications" I think what they really want to > know is what happens if they gets caught. Will EDS go to the trouble of > prosecuting? We can't answer that, that's up to EDS to decide. > > I would not recommend any reputable company to attempt to do so. > > > > ================================================== > Fred Lauzus, CAM Programming Coordinator > High Steel Structures, Incorporated > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.highsteel.com > ================================================== > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Senack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 3:27 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [mfg-smartcam] Passing this through the group for a contact > > > A Job Shop goes out of business and auctions off all of it's > machinery and office equipment. > In comes a purchaser at the auction and wins the bid > on a PC with SmartCAM V4.5, SmartCAM V10.0 and AutoCAD > installed on it. > > What are the legal ramifications, if any, of purchasing a > fully load CAD/CAM'ed PC? > > Is it up to the new owner to reregister and/or repurchase the software? > > Or can he/she simply plug-and-play? > > Regards, > Michael Senack > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 1:55 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [mfg-smartcam] Passing this through the group for a contact > > Group, > Just curious; what are the legal ramifications, if any, of purchasing a seat > from another party? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 11:28 AM > To: 'smartcam user group' > Subject: [mfg-smartcam] Passing this through the group for a contact > > > Group, > I got this email today from someone who is supposedly a Smartcam > Licensed User. I do not know this person but promised to pass his > contact info along in case he may have something someone can use. > If interested please contact him directly. > Michael > > > His message etc pasted below: > We have an old smart cam license, do you know of anybody who would > like to buy it ? > > Andy Burns-Ward > > Engineering Supervisor > Rocon manufacturing Corp. > 606 Hague Street > Rochester, NY 145606-1214 > Tel: 585-436-8189 > Fax: 585-436-2188 > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- Michael Gailey Artistic CNC Mill, Router and Engraver Programming 3D modeling for Product Design and Development http://www.microsystemsgeorgia.com/toc.htm ====================================================================== To find out more about this mailing list including how to unsubscribe, send the message "info mfg-smartcam" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ======================================================================
