All,

The IJ is absolute and G2/3 are the correct directions, proven by
running a program without tool comp.
The controller does not use the D number unlike a Fanuc etc
G40 works correctly and is being used.

I think John Morris is on the right line. This controller is very old
and probably does not apply tool comp to the start of the profile in the
"usual way". Once the tool comp is started it then works correctly and
even finishes in the way everyone would expect with a G40.

Here is a longer section of the program

N9 G0 X-11 Y25
N10 Z25 M8
N11 Z21 F1500
N12 G1 Z15 F300
N13 G41 X0 F1500 ****** program moves to x-6 y31 not x-6 y25
N14 Y40
N15 G17 G2 X10 Y50 I10 J40
N16 G1 X90
N17 G2 X100 Y40 I90 J40
N18 G1 Y10
N19 G2 X90 Y0 I90 J10
N20 G1 X10
N21 G2 X0 Y10 I10 J10
N22 G1 Y25    **** program moves correctly to x-6 y25 as the next line
contains G40
N23 G40 X-11
N24 Z10 F300
N25 G41 X0 F1500 ****** program moves to x-6 y31 not x-6 y25
N26 Y40
N27 G2 X10 Y50 I10 J40
N28 G1 X90
N29 G2 X100 Y40 I90 J40
N30 G1 Y10
N31 G2 X90 Y0 I90 J10
N32 G1 X10
N33 G2 X0 Y10 I10 J10
N34 G1 Y25 **** program moves correctly to x-6 y25 as the next line
contains G40
N35 G40 X-11

Nigel Webb
Industrial Plastic Fabrications Ltd
Tel 01992 893231
www.ipfl.co.uk



 -----Original Message-----
From:   Michael Senack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   08 July 2003 15:56
To:     Nigel Webb
Subject:        RE: [mfg-smartcam] Centroid tool compensation

I entered the program into SC using the absolute I and J center
co-ordinates and it looks fine on the screen.

The only thing I could suggest is using an R for the 
arc definition instead of the I and J, if the control
recognizes an R.

Another thought is to set the parameters on the control to 
use incremental I and J values...if the control is capable.

I'm presuming that you're canceling your CDC with a
lead off line using a G40 command?


-----Original Message-----
From: Nigel Webb
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [mfg-smartcam] Centroid tool compensation

Bill,

I tried the following 
(12mm Dia tool)

N7 G0 X-11 Y23
N8 Z25 M8
N9 Z21 F1500
N10 G1 Z15 F300
N11 G41 Y14 F1500
N12 G17 G3 X0 Y25 I-11 J25
N13 G1 Y40

This went wrong! 
It should be a move down and then a 90 deg CCW arc to the edge of the
profile except it moved down and then done a CW arc!

It is explained by observing the first move down to Y14, it ended up
with the centre of the tool at X-5. It applied the comp to the first
line rather than at the end of the first line!

It is a rather old (and odd) controller!!

Nigel Webb
Industrial Plastic Fabrications Ltd
Tel 01992 893231
www.ipfl.co.uk



 -----Original Message-----
From:   Bill Payter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   08 July 2003 10:21
To:     Nigel Webb; 

Subject:        Re: [mfg-smartcam] Centroid tool compensation

Nigel,

What happens if the third line is an arc move instead of G1 Y50?

Regards,

Bill Payter.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nigel Webb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:13 AM
Subject: [mfg-smartcam] Centroid tool compensation


> I'm having problems making a post processor for a :-
> 
> Centroid CNC4-B24-MD3
> 
> The main problem is applying tool compensation G41/G42
> Most controllers if you do the following will apply comp OK
> 
> Example 12mm Dia tool
> G0 X11 Y25   (tool moves to x11 y25)
> G1 G41 X0 Y25   (tool moves to x-6 y25)
> G1 Y50   (tool moves up y axis)
> 
> 
> If I do the same with the Centroid
> 
> G0 X11 Y25   (tool moves to x11 y25)
> G1 G41 X0 Y25   (tool moves to x-6 y31)  ***DIFFERENT***
> G1 Y50   (tool moves up y axis)
> 
> Has anybody solved this or does anybody have a post for a Centroid
CNC4?
> 
> Nigel Webb
> Industrial Plastic Fabrications Ltd
> Tel 01992 893231
> www.ipfl.co.uk <http://www.ipfl.co.uk> 
> 
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