On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Joe Apuzzo wrote:
> Chris Knadle wrote:
> > Hey, Joe.
> >
> > On Tuesday 01 January 2008, Joe Apuzzo wrote:
> >> You will not want to miss this talk! I've dug down deep into the Ubuntu
> >> (aka Debian) distro to show all the powerful but not well know commands
> >> Also contrary to my other nickname (GUI-Joe) this talk will be 85%
> >> command line, building to a demonstration on how to rescue a system when
> >> the admin makes fatal mistakes (been down that road many times).
> >
> >    Are you going to be discussing Ubuntu's use of AppArmor in relation to
> > this, by chance?
> >
> >    -- Chris
>
> Well when I saw that my talk was about 4+ hours long I pulled the
> section on security since it was a topic unto itself and was not really
> specific to Debian.

   Okay.
   Right now Ubuntu has AppArmor, but Debian itself DOES NOT.  There is work 
going on to bring AppArmor to Debian, but of course it's going to be SOME 
TIME before it reaches the Stable distribution...

> Would you be up to learning about "applied security" and presenting
> that? A talk on how to implement security systems for everyday use like
> AppArmor etc?
>
> Let us know ;-)

   I take it you mean "go away" via "that's the voice of a volunteer".  :-P

   Bruce Locke already gave a talk recently on SELinux in June, plus Mike and 
Bruce gave a "Security and Privacy" talk in October where Bruce discussed the 
audit daemon and Mike talked about TPM and encryption.  So if I gave a talk 
on a related subject, it would be specifically about AppArmor, and since my 
chosen distribution is Debian and Debian doesn't *have* AppArmor, well...  
that kind of defeats the purpose for now.  ;-)

   Plus right now I don't have a laptop I can do a presentation WITH.  I 
considered attempting a CCFL -> LED backlight conversion to try to get 
something that works, but I also have better things I can be doing.
   And if I *did* have a working laptop, I think a better presentation for me 
to focus on was the "building kernels the Debian way" talk idea I posted, 
which would be something that would cover some of the requests for talks that 
people had.



   The *reason* I asked about whether you were discussing AppArmor is that 
somebody on the Nylug list is having a problem with a USB printer such that 
AppArmor in Ubuntu seems to be denying cupsd access to /dev/tty.  [I.E. the 
current terminal.]  So I was curious if your Advanced Ubuntu talk concerning 
how to rescue a system was going to cover stuff like that.  I didn't even 
know Ubutnu even *HAD* AppArmor active until I had asked the asker to look at 
the output of 'dmesg', expecting to see USB disconnections, and the OP showed 
some of the "audit" messages he was seeing.
   Anyway that was my reason for the question.

   -- Chris

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