Mike;

You are correct as usual. They can't take away rights that they do not have.
But Novel does own the rights to Unix itself, and I think it is that
property that it is trying to protect.
With that said I did not want my "recommendation" of learning applied to
building a consulting business on SuSE.
OpenSUSE v11.0 has a learning curve and I still recommend any pro's out
there to check it out ( also there KDE v4 is very good )
System Admins also need to know Red Hat Enterprise Linux ( aka RHEL ) which
is simple to get and learn via CentOS ( http://www.centos.org/ )
CentOS is RHEL with all Red Hat logos and copyrighted stuff removed, thus it
is a good platform for a consulting or busness to use.

Frankly I do not find Red Hat a challange as it is decently straight
forward. Also Fedora which is what I swore by (before Ubuntu came out) is an
exclent desktop platform.
So as a Pro if you come accross a RHEL install it should not be much of an
issue, but if you have to support a SLES ( SUSE Linux Enterprise Server )
install on a $1 million dollar IBM Power server, well it will be a hand full
if you have never seen it. Thus learn OpenSUSE just in case ;-)

Joe


On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Mike Kershaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 03:32:34PM -0400, Joseph Apuzzo wrote:
> > Please note that when you install and use OpenSUSE you are giving up
> certain
> > user "rights" that GNU/Linux grants you under the GPL:
> >
> > it goes on and on!
> >
> > So "User be aware", if you think of using this as a server platform for a
> > business.
> > Novel's partner is still Microsoft, who has the longest EULA known.
> >
> > Thus I will learn it and delete the VM when I'm done.
> > Long live Ubuntu and Debian!
>
> I think this is not entirely a true statement.
>
> Novell cannot (and say as much) remove rights from you on GPL software
> or software they have not developed.  They do not own the sw.
>
> What they CAN do is restrict your rights to Novell-developed software
> not licensed under the GPL.  This means if their installer is binary
> only, etc, it falls under this license if not licensed otherwise.
>
> So, while this is a commercial license and that's galling, this does not
> restrict your rights with regards to any GPL (or BSD) software in
> OpenSuse.
>
> I have no argument with your decision to not use it because it contains
> non-free components, however :)
>
> -m
>
> --
> Mike Kershaw/Dragorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> "I'll be using the claw end of yer basic crow bar, but ya could use any
> kind
> of hammer or pry bar--just be sure ya get it blessed by a licensed exorcist
> BEFORE ya start the project."
>       -- This Old Exorcism
>
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