>From my own (newbie) standpoint linux has gone a long way from what it used
to be.

Just four years ago, before I a joined the military I had an incredibly
tough time
making Fedora work on my slightly non-standard hardware until I finally gave
up, I came back from deployment a couple months ago, and my experience
was night and day to what it has been. Ubuntu was installed on my brand
new laptop in only a few clicks, and I had a fully functional system running
without having to touch console or having to manually install any packages.
Compare it took me 1.5 hours to re-install XP + updates +all the drivers +
 software on a friends desktop.

Linux is already at the point where it can replace an average email/browsing
box, but perhaps it still needs a UI polish (gogo Shuttleworth!), a DirectX
alternative for games (openGL is behind times), and re-worked color system
before can be successful mainstream.

Good news is that time is on Linux's side.


On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Phil M Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Article on Linux in Popular Science, from the viewpoint of a "Joe
> Windows" user
> (it's mildly critical of Linux):
>
> http://www.popsci.com/entertainment-amp-gaming/article/2008-11/desktop-linux-%E2%80%93-will-it-ever-stick
> and many comments responding how great Linux is even for non-geeks.
>
> Do --you-- all feel that Linux has progressed to the level of "point and
> click" to
> get any task done? Many people seem to be allergic to the command line
> interface. We all know that there's a free equivalent to almost any bit of
> Windows software out there, but is it easy for people to find and
> install it?
> How about proprietary shrinkwrapped software that can't be downloaded
> (should you need some for one reason or another)? How about marketing and
> promotion of Linux in general? The article mentions that pre-loaded Linux
> laptops are returned at a far higher rate than Windows laptops, because
> people
> have been led to believe that using Linux is "just like using Windows".
> Are naive
> users being sold a bill of goods? When will Linux systems stop being a
> toy for
> tech geeks and start being a useful TOOL (or do you feel we're already
> there)?
> You want the OS to recede into the background and be unnoticed most of the
> time. Ideally, your average user wouldn't even be aware of which OS their
> computer is running under.
>
> I couldn't make it to the monthly meeting (car was in the shop), but if
> it's a
> major problem to supply ready-to-run executables (as in Windows) for a
> wide range of architectures and Linux flavors/levels, and most non-geeks
> don't want to touch a CLI, is there a solution? Can source tarballs, etc.
> be distributed in a single universal package, and automatically compiled
> and linked (after bringing in any prereqs, including compilers)? No getting
> hands dirty running 'make' and related commands -- it just takes a bit
> longer to install than a ready-to-run binary. Do such capabilities already
> exist? Just a thought. I suppose that an alternative would be to distribute
> Java bytecode or scripts such as Perl -- would they be totally platform-
> independent? Sorry if this was covered at the meeting!
>
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