Well, I would expect that if Linux is deployed in the work place, then it's
either the employers decree or the IT department's choice.
Giving the employee a choice the votes would be for OS/X or Windows, I would
highly doubt that Linux would be a common person's choice.

When it comes down to HW choices, there are only a hand full that could be
seen as non-Linux friendly ( Win-Modems if they still exist, Mother Boards
with Windows only chips aka see first email in this thread )
So we are faced with the ethical question when choosing new hardware, what
is the best value and what also appeals to my values.
This is the discussion I was hoping to have, can one balance
price/performance with FOSS/GNU ideals?

You be the judge :-)

Joe

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Greg M. Johnson <[email protected]>wrote:

> Subject: Re: [mhvlug] Finally bit the dust
>
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:14:22 -0400
> > From: Chris Knadle <[email protected]>
> >
> > Consider the way that Nvidia drivers currently work -- they're
> periodically
> > split off into separate packages which are then not supported, and the
> > newer
> > drivers deprecate older cards.  Then what happens is that both the Linux
> > kernel and X.org are updated such that the old drivers that are no longer
> > supported require updating before they will function again.  :-/  (I'm
> > currently dealing with this problem with several older Nvidia cards, all
> of
> > which are in different states of brokeness.)  Repeat that cycle a few
> times
> > and
> > you can understand why having an open source driver that others can
> support
> > is
> > a big deal.  And this also explains why binary blobs can _never_ fully
> fit
> > our
> > needs.
> >
> > I think this also explains why ATI went away from the binary-only model
> --
> > because it similarly creates forced obsolescence and thus pisses people
> > off.
> >
> >
> >  -- Chris
> >
>
>
> Okay, let's agree that the Linux enthusiast, when re/building a new system
> from scratch, should seek out components that are open-source friendly.
>  But
> what about the business of satisfying customers who need a functioning OS
> in
> their workplace (but happen to have problematic cards)  or the political
> movement of empowering  widespread adoption of free-as-in-beer OS'es?
>
> I had Ubuntu 8.04.1 on a box, and decided to upgrade. I got a message that
> said because I had an Nvidia card, I would lose features upon upgrading,
> because there was no driver available for 8.10.  My solution? Linux Mint!
>  I
> don't know if Linux Mint will later hit me with exactly the same problem
> when I upgrade it, but I was agitated enough to switch.  I'm just wondering
> how many n00bs (businesspersons included) would just go to Vista upon
> seeing
> such a message  (provided no one told them about Linux Mint.)   Were there
> no alternatives?  I'd imagine any other option, perhaps even forking a
> distro over the card version, would be better than giving a new adopter
> such
> a screen.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Greg M. Johnson
> http://pterandon.blogspot.com
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