On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, dave shields wrote:

I *only* use Ubuntu for one reason. Not because it is the "best" technically
-- though I do favor it because it is based on Debian --  but because it has
the largest community behind it, and so is the best candidate to make Linux
a real contender.

Some of us have to actually write programs and install them in commercial servers. These servers run Linux. We don't write programs to run on
windows servers. We don't do windows. However, we have to develop and run
apps that run 4 cores at 90% on all 4, unlike the average user.
Ubuntu, the last time I tried it, was a pita for development.
It didn't even have gcc installed. I had to do it myself.
And the libraries, huh?

For Linux to succeed its market share must overtake that of Apple.  Doing
that will really push Linux into the mainstream. Until that day comes Linux
will remain on the fringe.


Linux is already in the mainstream in the largest corporations in the world, and in many other government department, or country organizations.

I believe it is only a matter of time, but that time will come sooner if we
rally around Ubuntu. Yes, it is fun -- and an important educational
experience -- for try various distros and compare them , but the plethora of
current distributions is creating a "Linux war" that I fear is too close to
the  "Unix wars" of the late 80's and 90's that almost destroyed Unix.

It is only a matter of time, and that time is coming soon, when we might all be running commercial operating systems.
But, of course, whenever you use google, or any other major portal, execpt
the evil empire, you are using linux. Even if it's not running on your machine.

Thank goodness Linux came along to keep Unix going. Otherwise we might all
be running commercial operating systems today.

Actually, Linux almost killed the unix market. Unix users switched to Linux en masse.

But technical merit is not the sole criterion. Were that the case we would
all be runing Linux. We need to unite and not keep shooting ourselves in the
foot. This, for example, is why I cringe every time I hear the phrase
"GNU/Linux" ...

We who write the commercial apps need to have the latest and greatest of
everything. Otherwise, we cannot do devopment for the commercial servers
in use.

For those for whom technical merit is the sole criterion, we are already runing Linux.

Popularity is also not the sole criterion. There is no popularity contest
bewteen distros. Linux use will continue to succeed no matter what, because it already is.

For that reason, when I build my machines, I focus on the maximum performance I can get from the hardware. I do not buy the cheapest, nor
the next to cheapest.  I buy what can do the most.
I do not buy the most expensive, as you do not buy the cheapest.

I buy the parts that are the most useful for developing and demonstrating my applications. Otherwise, how can I ever demonstrate anything?

I have to assume that the customer will want the best hardware to run
the application, so I have to get it in advance and check itall out.

thanks, dave

It's geting late now, and I just did lvextend -L 128G, and resize2fs on my /dev/vg0/home logical volume to make it 128G instead of 64G.
See you soon.

Lex
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