On Tuesday 04 August 2009, Luther Woodrum wrote: > On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, dave shields wrote: > > I *only* use Ubuntu for one reason. Not because it is the "best" > > technically -- though I do favor it because it is based on Debian > > -- but because it has the largest community behind it, and so is > > the best candidate to make Linux a real contender. > > Some of us have to actually write programs and install them in > commercial servers. These servers run Linux. We don't write > programs to run on windows servers. We don't do windows. However, > we have to develop and run apps that run 4 cores at 90% on all 4, > unlike the average user. Ubuntu, the last time I tried it, was a > pita for development. It didn't even have gcc installed. I had to > do it myself. > And the libraries, huh?
If you choose not to install the "develop environment" at install time (default) then I believe that's the case. This differs from Debian, which will install GCC and minimal devel libs unless you de-select "standard system" at install time. I honestly don't know which install behavior is better. > > Thank goodness Linux came along to keep Unix going. Otherwise we > > might all be running commercial operating systems today. > > Actually, Linux almost killed the unix market. Unix users switched > to Linux en masse. Linux wasn't (and isn't) the only such project -- if it weren't for Linux then maybe we'd all be running BSD, or Minix, or something else. There were (and are) several parallel efforts to create a free Unix clone, so I believe we'd be essentially in the same position even if the Linux kernel hadn't been brought into existance. > > But technical merit is not the sole criterion. Were that the case > > we would all be runing Linux. We need to unite and not keep > > shooting ourselves in the foot. This, for example, is why I > > cringe every time I hear the phrase "GNU/Linux" ... Since a mutually agreed name between Linux and GNU isn't likely, the only way I know to give credit to both sides is to call it "GNU/Linux". I agree with you that the naming convention is somewhat divisive and unpleasant -- I just don't know anything better to call it that respects all concerned -- the name "Linux" is trademarked. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle [email protected] _______________________________________________ Mid-Hudson Valley Linux Users Group http://mhvlug.org http://mhvlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mhvlug Upcoming Meetings (6pm - 8pm) MHVLS Auditorium Jul 1 - Linux High Performance Computing Aug 5 - TBD Sept 2 - Linux and HDTV
