I know where the LUG is, I used to live/work there.
I also know all the answers to those questions, they were simply examples.

Thanks.
Dan

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Mark Wallace
<[email protected]>wrote:

> This is the right list for your questions.  MHVLUG is located in
> Poughkeepsie, NY.  There is a heavy IBM presence here.  That skews the
> group a little bit to people who do heavy C++, maybe more so than other
> groups.  Sometimes I think that new users drop out because there are
> meetings where you get the feeling that the people there are speaking a
> foreign language.
>
> The growing edge of Linux is people like you.  The heavy programmers
> already are wrapped up and sold on Linux.  Linux needs to jump the gap
> to the layman who doesn't do programming.
>
> I have what I call "The Waitress Test" of Linux distros.  I stumbled
> across it during one of the after meeting social times at the Palace
> Diner.
>
> The Waitress Test is "If you gave a CD of this distro to the waitress
> and she took it home to put it on her system, could she get it up and
> running in an evening?"  Ubuntu was the first distro that passed "The
> Waitress Test."   Mandriva came close, but they want you to pay to join
> that Mandrake Club that gets you the support that you need.
>
>
> I'm using 10.04.  One difference is that there was no longer a driver
> for my notebook adapter, so I had to plug it directly into the ethernet
> to install.  That might not be a problem for others.  It also screwed up
> some g-streams but I have that figured out, now.  I listen to a lot of
> news radio and tv stations in Canada.
>
> I don't know how hard the LPI test is but it is for serious programmers.
> Based on what I have read, it's a lot more than just being able to
> maintain Ubuntu desktops.
>
> 64 Bit is still having  problems with drivers.  My visual effects work
> with the 32 bit system but not the 64, most likely because there isn't a
> good driver.
>
> Ubuntu recommends that you put 32 bit software into a 64 bit system for
> that reason, unless you have a good reason to NEED the 64 bit.
>
> I take a fair number of used computers.  I am going to ship them to my
> nephew in the impoverished Philippines.  What are you offering?  Ubuntu
> needs pentium II and 256 bit or better.  I also live near the county
> dump and can drop off one system a day free of charge.  So if it has
> problems, I can unload it.  I took one pentium !!! laptop and the only
> thing that I could use was the power pack.  The hard drive was shot but
> I got what I paid for.
>
> My wife could use a notebook or netbook, that can handle Ubuntu.  My son
> is ready for his own system.  At age 5 he is an Ubuntu man.  He goes
> nuts waiting for Pista or Xtra P to boot.  10.04 takes less than a
> minute.  Windoze can take four or five.  It also takes up three or four
> times the memory, which makes it unsuitable for small systems.  The
> netbooks went with Ubuntu because it would fit on a smaller hard drive,
> but the purchasers were expecting Windows so they had a high return to
> the store rate.  That is why they are gone.
>
> Mark Wallace
>
>
> On Mon, 2010-07-26 at 15:48 -0700, Dan Simoes wrote:
> > I remain on the list though I am in a land far far away, in the hope
> > that I will come across some good, linux-centric or tech-centric
> > content.
> > I do not care about FOSS vs commercial solutions, except where there's
> > a practical discussion.
> > There are a number of users' posts that I consider annoying drivel,
> > yet I choose to let those hit the bit bucket.
> >
> > If there's enough interest, perhaps a second offtopic or anything goes
> > list could be created, to keep the main list on track.
> > For example:
> >
> > Main list:
> > - Has anyone tried Ubuntu 10.04 yet?
> > - Should I install 32 bit or 64 bit versions?
> > - How hard is it to pass the LPI test?
> > - Does anyone have experience with scaling in Amazon EC2, a la
> > Rightscale or scalr?
> > - How do I donate a used computer in the HV region?
> >
> > Off topic list:
> > - DJB, deity or complete idiot?
> > - Why does Richard Stallman wear birkenstocks?
> > - Write to your congressman about this bill, it's important!
> >
> > You get the drift.  Not sure where I'd put the "why are there so many
> > Macs at tech conferences?" but for me it's a main list topic, as it
> > relates to linux/unix.
> >
> > If a second list is too much hassle, we could also let people add an
> > [offtopic] tag to their subject line, but that rarely works.
> >
> > I agree that moderation is a waste of Sean's time and there should be
> > no reason for it.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Dan
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