If you are making $10 an hour, you can earn the price of a new tower in 30 
hours.  If you have spent two weekends on this, then it would have been 
cheaper to just buy a new tower.

That being said,  I will admit to only donating my Commodore 64 to Goodwill in 
December.  It had been sitting in the back of my basement for ten years.

Mark



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On Friday, March 18, 2011 1:51:33 pm Joseph Apuzzo wrote:
> That is the point, if your working on a system that needs to boot from a
> floppy and only a floppy, you need to ask the question:
> Is what I am doing worth the time and effort? I mean if your formatting a
> HD, just put it in a PC that you can work with.
> If the system is so old ( say MFM drives etc ) then unless your recovering
> data, that system should be recycled for metals not put back in service.
> There is a point a which one needs to do the right thing and console the
> supportee by telling them it's just "game over" time to get a new system.
> 
> My impression was that these are systems that are going to be re-deployed.
> Which is great, I'm all for that. But not for trying to fight a losing
> battle keeping 10+ year old PC's up and running. That is more time and
> headache that anyone should suffer through.
> 
> I was referring to OpenDOS which was derived from DrDOS 7.x =>
> http://www.drdosprojects.de/
> Which is somewhat popular in the embedded space
> 
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Chris Knadle 
<[email protected]>wrote:
> > On Fri, March 18, 2011 12:49 pm, Joseph Apuzzo wrote:
> > > Don't forget DrDos 7.x that is still floppy based, but not sure which
> > 
> > file
> > 
> > > systems it can format/supports.
> > 
> > Uh, DrDos was a product of Caldera, and Caldera was bought by SCO.
> > I used to use DrDos for a while, and I don't remember it supporting
> > formatting Linux filesystems, and since the SCO merger we've had the
> > inclusion of ext3 and ext4 both of which I'm sure DrDos won't support.
> > 
> > I think the suggestion of using a Gnu/Linux LiveCD of one form or another
> > for partitioning + formatting partitions is a good angle for this.  There
> > are still Linux distros you can fit on floppies, but only a Linux
> > "sub-kernel" can fit on a single floppy, last I recall.
> > 
> > > Anyway isn't using systems that do not have a CD kinda useless?
> > > I mean more trouble then solution, since floppies are no longer made or
> > > available.
> > > Just trying to provide helpfully/constructive criticism.
> > 
> > While I too consider the Floppy to be the "last alternative", there are
> > older systems that cannot boot from CD nor USB, so if you want to work
> > with that kind of box there is realistically no other option.
> > 
> >   -- Chris
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Chris Knadle
> > [email protected]
> > 
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