On Saturday, April 09, 2011 15:59:22 Joseph Apuzzo wrote:
> There maybe a bug in the process, did the "update-manager -d" method which
> d/l a distro installer.

Okay -- I had a look; the man page shows that update-manager also has a
'--dist-upgrade' command line option.

   http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/update-manager.8.html

I don't blame you for not knowing about the 'dist-upgrade' option, though, 
because the only time to use the option is when switching between branches or 
between major distribution upgrades, and it's also possible to distribution 
upgrades in steps without using the 'dist-upgrade' option, which can lead you 
into a false sense of security.

This is one of the problems that everybody runs into at some time or another.  
Because it happened this time, you'll remember for next time.  And that's how 
we learn to use the special option.  Happened to me too, bro.  ;-)

> The problem was compounded by the fact that I had a separate /boot
> partition with "/" being it's own, but there was a boot directory there
> from the last update. I can't reproduce it, nor wright up a bug report
> that would be worth there time, so I moved on...

Okay...  yeah, I'm quite familiar with the Grub2 problem concerning having a 
/boot partition.  It probably gave you the "Embedding not possible, 
installation only possible via a blocklist, which is not recommended... 
installation failed" kind of error.  This is *NOT* your fault.  There ARE 
reasons to use a /boot partition -- I have a /boot partition most of the 
systems I had installed, too.  This is something that Grub1 handled well, but 
Grub2 doesn't.  It's getting better but there are still some unfortunate 
issues there.

> Should have Debian Sid up and running today, then will install Gnome3.

Debian doesn't yet have Gnome3 in their main repositories yet, including in 
Experimental, so you'll need an external repository of some kind for Gnome3.  
And for Experimental you may need a special command line option for the 
package manager to include the repository, such as 'aptitude -t experimental'.

Usually it takes about a week or two before something brand new shows up in 
Unstable or Experimental... though occasionally it's only a couple of days.

> Ubuntu desired to "roll there own" shinny new interface for 11.04 so from
> what I read there are compatibility issues.
> I have not seen any reported for Debian ( ... yet... )

In this case I expect Gnome3 in Deiban to show up in Debian Experimental first 
because it radically changes the interface enough that a lot of people are 
hating it... or for it to be packaged separately such that it will be possible 
to stick with Gnome2 if needed.  Same was true of KDE4 at first.  It's 
generally a good thing and gets the packages some testing before it hits 
everybody using Unstable for daily work by surprise.

  -- Chris

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