On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Sean Dague <[email protected]> wrote:

>  On 11/28/2014 08:33 PM, Jack Chastain wrote:
>
>  On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Sean Dague <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  On 11/28/2014 08:03 PM, Jack Chastain wrote:
>>
>> It was "whatever the system wanted" - based on upgrade notices normally
>> given... so not something I did "intentionally" - just the flow of things.
>> I only know that it is not stating 14.04 LTE (note - I don't see 14.04.1 -
>> though that is what I am downloading to DVD at the moment.)
>>
>>  ifconfig looks ... short to me - but I don't look at it often enough to
>> know on the laptop. If I am reading it correctly, only "lo" is showing
>> up.Loopback isn't going to do me any good (not at all sure why no wireless
>> either but I suspect it is related).
>>
>>  ifconfig -a (the -a is important) as that will display all interfaces
>> known to the system even if they don't have addresses, which yours don't.
>>
>>
>  Yep - that's a habit I have - and when NOT on DVD, it only has lo
> (booted on LiveCD - much more normal, though no address on eth0)
>
>
>
>>  I also don't know what a Logitech Unity is, so I'm not sure what kind of
>> device is expected there.
>>
>>
>  On LIveCD it "just works" - even the keyboard! Yay! Maybe I don't need
> Solaar anymore!
>
>
>>
>>    No clue if that is imporatant.
>>
>>  Should I try to drop you the entire dmesg?
>>
>>  [add: I just ran "dmesg | grep -i net" - see this mongst a few other
>> things: "audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled)"]
>>
>>  Thanks!
>>
>>  What you are looking for is reference for your network adapters
>> initializing for instance:
>>
>> [    8.991276] e1000e: eth0 NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow
>> Control: Rx/Tx
>> (from my desktop)
>>
>> or
>>
>> [496871.229602] iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: L1 Enabled; Disabling L0S
>> [496871.236602] iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: Radio type=0x1-0x2-0x0
>> [500301.873312] iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: no hotplug settings from platform
>> [501462.791896] iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: no hotplug settings from platform
>> (from my laptop)
>>
>>
>  Yeah - absolutely nothing like this when on normal boot. No eth anything
> (I grepped before)
>
>
>
>>  The other thing to figure out is figure out if some config file wanted
>> to be updated during upgrade and didn't get:
>>
>> sudo find /etc | grep dpkg-dist
>>
>>
>  nothing returns. I dropped off the "-dist" and get some results, so I am
> presuming the answer to this is "there aren't any".
>
>
>
>>  That will be the etc files which there was a new distro config file, but
>> either you or the system decided not to apply it. That can be the cause for
>> configuration issues like this as well.
>>
>> But, that being said, there is a lot of shooting in the dark here.
>>
>>
>  Totally understand and appreciate the attempts. Original question stands
> - is it possible to do a "recovery" from the DVD I now have, or am I just
> going to commit to a rebuild? I can do that - probably easier - I backed up
> my entire home dir before, so no loss anticipated (though I have to reload
> all the "stuff". Too clueless to use all the nice reconstruction things ;-)
>
> There is not really such a thing as a recovery mode, because what that
> would be is trying to clear out a bunch of common state and reboot, most of
> which would be in /etc.
>
>
Well - I expected that, but was kind of hoping...



> Did you try removing the persistence rules file with a restart? That's the
> most common state wedge for something like "my adapter didn't show up".
>
>
Did nothing (that I was aware of?) with rules. Are we talking about
/etc/udev? (Only got that from Google - keep in mind - I am pretty minimal
in Linux!) I'm looking at search results for that now - nothing good yet.

I will probably just go for a re-install, given that everything works fine
with the DVD in.



> The other "in the future" tool to install and use is 'etckeeper', which
> keeps all of /etc in a git repo, so you can see all changes that package
> upgrades do, which helps on a debug like this.
>
>
I will do that first :)


>     -Sean
>
>

JC

>
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