On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 3:19 AM, Matthias Johnson < [email protected]> wrote:
> Not a solution but I just wanted to point out something mentioned in the > past. All future Mint releases will be based on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS until 2016 > and instead Mint will focus on their packages making things pretty and > solid. This would give you a more time with an install before it becoming > stale. Or you could just stay with Ubuntu LTS. If you end up reinstalling > don't forget to at least grab all your home data :-) > Well - oddly, I think this IS 14.04 LTS - at least that was my indication so far. Just spent a LOT of time with Sean D on chat and a few things were found - I am actually completing the work Sean gave me now but there have been a few results so far: I had a large number of older kernels - Sean gave me instructions to delete them. Theory is I MAY have run out of space (if so, I do not recall any warning, but anything is possible) and packages may have been corrupted. As noted, everything worked GREAT under the 14.04.1 LiveCD I pulled down on the Windows box - so we used that, mounted my original root partition (/dev/sda2) and did chroot to it - then ran some package commands there (after fixing network routing). After this, when I booted back, I actually had network and wifi back - but still some issues. I just completed removing 9 old packages - leaving the latest three onboard - rebooted - and things are far, far better - I am now showing that I have some updates to perform, so I may see if those run properly now. Maybe the push to 14.04 had some issue that required 14.04.1 - not certain but in my initial searches for what was going on, I recall something like that being said. Anyway, I got hit with something odd, maybe unique (space?) and it was just the luck of the draw that it took out the network, so I couldn't (easily) fix it! Yay for Sean! Now to see what - if anything - remains busted.... JC > On Nov 28, 2014 9:09 PM, "Jack Chastain" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Jack Chastain <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> A thought struck me after I sent my last reply - can I boot the DVD >>> (LiveCD mode) and then mount my original partition and run "sudo apt-get >>> update" on that? Or even the fix that was mentioned? Is that too much a >>> Solaris thing to work on Linux? >>> >>> >> Reading man page on it, probably just a little too much to hope for. OK - >> Reinstall coming up after maybe a bit more reading and searching. If I can >> stand it, I may even wait until Saturday just in case there are other ideas. >> >> >> JC >> >> JC >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Jack Chastain <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Sean Dague <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 11/28/2014 08:33 PM, Jack Chastain wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Sean Dague <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 11/28/2014 08:03 PM, Jack Chastain wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> It was "whatever the system wanted" - based on upgrade notices >>>>>> normally given... so not something I did "intentionally" - just the flow >>>>>> of >>>>>> things. I only know that it is not stating 14.04 LTE (note - I don't see >>>>>> 14.04.1 - though that is what I am downloading to DVD at the moment.) >>>>>> >>>>>> ifconfig looks ... short to me - but I don't look at it often >>>>>> enough to know on the laptop. If I am reading it correctly, only "lo" is >>>>>> showing up.Loopback isn't going to do me any good (not at all sure why no >>>>>> wireless either but I suspect it is related). >>>>>> >>>>>> ifconfig -a (the -a is important) as that will display all >>>>>> interfaces known to the system even if they don't have addresses, which >>>>>> yours don't. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Yep - that's a habit I have - and when NOT on DVD, it only has lo >>>>> (booted on LiveCD - much more normal, though no address on eth0) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I also don't know what a Logitech Unity is, so I'm not sure what >>>>>> kind of device is expected there. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> On LIveCD it "just works" - even the keyboard! Yay! Maybe I don't >>>>> need Solaar anymore! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> No clue if that is imporatant. >>>>>> >>>>>> Should I try to drop you the entire dmesg? >>>>>> >>>>>> [add: I just ran "dmesg | grep -i net" - see this mongst a few >>>>>> other things: "audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled)"] >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> What you are looking for is reference for your network adapters >>>>>> initializing for instance: >>>>>> >>>>>> [ 8.991276] e1000e: eth0 NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full Duplex, >>>>>> Flow Control: Rx/Tx >>>>>> (from my desktop) >>>>>> >>>>>> or >>>>>> >>>>>> [496871.229602] iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: L1 Enabled; Disabling L0S >>>>>> [496871.236602] iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: Radio type=0x1-0x2-0x0 >>>>>> [500301.873312] iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: no hotplug settings from >>>>>> platform >>>>>> [501462.791896] iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: no hotplug settings from >>>>>> platform >>>>>> (from my laptop) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Yeah - absolutely nothing like this when on normal boot. No eth >>>>> anything (I grepped before) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> The other thing to figure out is figure out if some config file >>>>>> wanted to be updated during upgrade and didn't get: >>>>>> >>>>>> sudo find /etc | grep dpkg-dist >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> nothing returns. I dropped off the "-dist" and get some results, so >>>>> I am presuming the answer to this is "there aren't any". >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> That will be the etc files which there was a new distro config file, >>>>>> but either you or the system decided not to apply it. That can be the >>>>>> cause >>>>>> for configuration issues like this as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> But, that being said, there is a lot of shooting in the dark here. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Totally understand and appreciate the attempts. Original question >>>>> stands - is it possible to do a "recovery" from the DVD I now have, or am >>>>> I >>>>> just going to commit to a rebuild? I can do that - probably easier - I >>>>> backed up my entire home dir before, so no loss anticipated (though I have >>>>> to reload all the "stuff". Too clueless to use all the nice reconstruction >>>>> things ;-) >>>>> >>>>> There is not really such a thing as a recovery mode, because what that >>>>> would be is trying to clear out a bunch of common state and reboot, most >>>>> of >>>>> which would be in /etc. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Well - I expected that, but was kind of hoping... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Did you try removing the persistence rules file with a restart? That's >>>>> the most common state wedge for something like "my adapter didn't show >>>>> up". >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Did nothing (that I was aware of?) with rules. Are we talking about >>>> /etc/udev? (Only got that from Google - keep in mind - I am pretty minimal >>>> in Linux!) I'm looking at search results for that now - nothing good yet. >>>> >>>> I will probably just go for a re-install, given that everything works >>>> fine with the DVD in. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> The other "in the future" tool to install and use is 'etckeeper', >>>>> which keeps all of /etc in a git repo, so you can see all changes that >>>>> package upgrades do, which helps on a debug like this. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I will do that first :) >>>> >>>> >>>>> -Sean >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> JC >>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Google Voice: (914) 468-4552 >>>> ---------------------------------------- >>>> Prov. 12:15 >>>> >>>> Eschew obfuscation and pompous prolixity. >>>> >>>> Light a man a fire, he is warm for the night. >>>> Light a man afire, he is warm for the rest of his life. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Google Voice: (914) 468-4552 >>> ---------------------------------------- >>> Prov. 12:15 >>> >>> Eschew obfuscation and pompous prolixity. >>> >>> Light a man a fire, he is warm for the night. >>> Light a man afire, he is warm for the rest of his life. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Google Voice: (914) 468-4552 >> ---------------------------------------- >> Prov. 12:15 >> >> Eschew obfuscation and pompous prolixity. >> >> Light a man a fire, he is warm for the night. >> Light a man afire, he is warm for the rest of his life. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mid-Hudson Valley Linux Users Group http://mhvlug.org >> https://mhvlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mhvlug >> >> Upcoming Meetings (6pm - 8pm) Vassar College * >> Dec 3 - Home Disaster Recovery >> Jan 7 - When Will Then Be Now? 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