You know, you'd think the corrosion issue could be solved with some kind of
additive at the time the E85 is blended, no?  At least for the metal parts.
This may be what the synthetic oil is for in that guys site, he adds it to
the E85 perhaps?  Older rubber lines on older vehicles would prob still need
changing.

 

There is a big fight going on in aviation with AGE85 here is the pro-age85
site http://www.age85.org/   

 

They say that the compression ratio is INCREASED to gain max benefit.
(aircraft engines generally have low compression to start off with)

 

Pilots have been discussing some big issues/unknowns with AGE85/Ethanol
avgas..  The idea doesn't seem popular, at all.

 

 

 

The FAA cites numerous reasons that alcohol and airplanes do not mix.
Alcohol: 

Adversely affects the volatility of auto gasoline, which could cause vapor
lock.  Is corrosive and not compatible with the rubber seals and other
materials used in aircraft, which could lead to fuel system deterioration
and malfunction. Is subject to phase separation, which happens when the fuel
is cooled as an aircraft climbs to higher altitudes. When the alcohol
separates from the gasoline, it may carry water that has been held in
solution and that cannot be handled by the sediment bowl. 
Reduces the energy content of the fuel. Methanol has approximately 55
percent of the energy content of gasoline, ethanol 73 percent. More alcohol
equals reduced range. 

See

http://www.eaa. <http://www.eaa.org/news/2006/2006-11-01_faa.asp>
org/news/2006/2006-11-01_faa.asp

 

 

 

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 3:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: E85 in a Miata redux

 

There are a number of EVOs running E85. The only changes are an upgraded
fuel pump, larger injectors and a re-tune. You will need 30% more E85 by
volume than with gasoline. Not a single one of these E85 EVOs has had any
corrosion issues. All are running stock fuel lines, stock tank, stock fuel
rail, etc.

 

There is a special forum section on EvolutionM.net for Special Fuels - lots
of E85 info. 

Here is the link:

http://forums.evolutionm.net/forumdisplay.php?f=225

 

Jim in Tucson

 

 

 

In a message dated 5/6/2008 9:44:05 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

So, after reading the archives, it looks like the question was never
actually answered (but boy did it create a long list of people talking
about the USA's energy policy!).  There was some hand waving about it
not being just as simple as putting E85 in your tank and retuning, but
no concrete examples of things tried, problems encountered, solutions
created, etc.

I'm looking to avoid the whole discussion of whether or not this is a
good energy policy and mainly wondering if it can be done on a hobby
level.  Replacing fuel lines, the pump, and injectors seems like an
easy task and gives me an excuse to continue to tinker with the Miata.

I had considered doing an AC electric motor conversion to the Miata,
but that's going to be far more work and far more expensive (like
$20k, at least, to do it right).

So, has anyone else given any thought to E85 in their Link Miata, and
if so, how did it go?

Thanks!

Mark
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