I guess my thought is those are awfully bad numbers for an engine that
is running well and not burning oil. If the car idles smoothly and pulls
good vacuum, I'm not buying those leakdown numbers. It doesn't add up.
Unless I misunderstood and it actually runs like crap. Not saying
anything against Coop, maybe carbon dropped in from taking the plugs out
or something.
 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:02 PM
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Subject: Re: turbo a motor with less than perfect compression?


I'm not the sort to worry.  Why rebuild now when I can rebuild later?

(serious - that is the question I'm looking to answer)

- Dillon


On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Bryan Wyatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I still don't understand the idea of
running more air through an engine that is showing signs of weakness.
It still seems like if you're that concerned about the engine (and the
possibility of a rebuild) that you should spend the money to get a darn
near perfect running engine, *then* spend more money to boost it.  Your
power level would be higher and you'd be happier because you're not
sitting around worrying about the thing blowing up on you. 


-Bryan


--- On Tue, 6/10/08, Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


        From: Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        
        Subject: Re: turbo a motor with less than perfect compression?
        
        To: "Bill Cardell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        Cc: "miatapower List" <[email protected]>
        Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 1:50 PM 


        Hi guys,
        
        Thanks for all the input.  I can't answer the detailed questions
too definitively.  I moved into a smaller apartment last year and don't
have access to the tools myself (incredibly frustrating).  Coop (of
Coop's Miata) near Seattle did the tests while he had my car for a
roll-bar install.
        
        I witnessed the compression test but not the leakdown test.  As
for how much oil, it wasn't too much as I recall, maybe a few teaspoons
per cylinder?  
        
        As for the leakdown test, I can't say for sure if the motor was
hot or cold.  I could ask but I doubt Coop would remember my specific
car since this was a few months ago.  I would assume it was hot, as that
seems to be the thing to do, and Coop is experienced at these things.
        
        He said he could hear the air whistling and that it was
definitely rings, but I don't recall if he said he heard the air at the
exhaust, or the crankcase.  I am assuming the crankcase.
        
        Does any of this add up?  
        
        
        On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:59 AM, Bill Cardell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
        

                I'm with Tim. Make sure the engine is warm. Something
else I've seen is dislodged carbon from the plug threads throwing off
comp tests. On a good hot engine, redo both tests. Also, how much oil
did you put in? Too much and you're just reducing chamber volume, which
will push numbers way up. Also, as Tim said, where is the air leaking
from on the leakdown? That is the utility of the leakdown test, it tells
you "what" is bad. The bad thing is that no test I'm aware of will tell
you anything about oil ring condition, but you say you're not using oil.
                
                


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