Hmm, this could lead to some interesting options for someone trying to
increase their MPG. Cam grounding and head shaving come to mind (assuming
higher compression is good for MPG - not sure if it is or not).

I'll have to put some thought into this if I do have a leaky head.


On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:06 AM, Bill Cardell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  you could try, but you'll probably end up doing a gasket if that is what
> it turns out to be.
>
>
> Bill Cardell
> TurboDog's Dad
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>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Robert McElwee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:32 PM
> *To:* Bill Cardell
> *Cc:* Ray Ayala; miatapower List
>
> *Subject:* Re: Tips for Installing a new rear main seal ???
>
> I cleaned up all the oil and will have to inspect the engine for the leak
> again. If it does turn out to be a head gasket (there was some oil around
> the bottom of the head on the leaky oil filler cap side) do you just
> re-torque the bolts or is it more involved than that?
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Bill Cardell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>>  FWIW, we find most "leaking" rear mains really aren't. It is usually the
>> CAS o-ring running all the way down, or occasionally a head gasket (if a
>> 1.6). Pretty sure we've never seen a rear main brg fail by itself. I agree
>> with Ray that a failing rear main brg would cause the seal to fail, just
>> don't recall seeing it happen on a Miata.
>>
>>
>> Bill Cardell
>> TurboDog's Dad
>> www.flyinmiata.com
>> www.fmwestfield.com
>> orders 1-800-FLY-MX5S
>> Before you call our tech line (970.464.5600) please check out the 
>> *FAQ*<http://www.flyinmiata.com/FAQ/>section of our website
>>
>> Don't miss Flyin' Miata's Open House! Aug 14-17, 2008
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Ray Ayala
>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 21, 2008 10:04 AM
>> *To:* Robert McElwee
>> *Cc:* miatapower List
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: Tips for Installing a new rear main seal ???
>>
>>   Changing the main bearings, any of them, requires pulling the pan.
>> Once that's off you might as well replace all of the main and rod bearings
>> because they're all probably equally worn.  It's always possible though
>> rather unlikely that the rear seal was just defective, and it can be changed
>> when the flywheel is off.  And while the trans is out its also easy measure
>> how far the crank can move in a the fore/aft direction to check the thrust
>> bearing wear ... a separate possible (and  fairly common) problem.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Robert McElwee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> *To:* Ray Ayala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> *Cc:* miatapower List <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 20, 2008 9:47 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: Tips for Installing a new rear main seal ???
>>
>> Hmmm, how do I know if the bearing is gone? After changing the
>> clutch/pilot a few years ago I immediately started getting a slight
>> "bearing noise" while decelerating. I haven't noticed it much lately but I
>> am sure it is still there.
>>
>> The car has 105K miles on it and started leaking about 5K (6 months) ago.
>> I am not a gear head and not exactly sure what changing the rear main
>> bearing entails. Is this something that can/should be done when I change
>> this seal.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 12:38 AM, Ray Ayala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>  FWIW (and YMMV) rear engine seals don't usually go bad until prompted
>>> to by a worn out rear main bearing.
>>>
>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* Robert McElwee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>   *To:* Ray Ayala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> *Cc:* miatapower List <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 20, 2008 9:20 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: Tips for Installing a new rear main seal ???
>>>
>>> Rear engine seal (I hope). Oil coming from the weep hole in the bell
>>> housing. I'm half a quart down right now on the engine oil so I am assuming
>>> that is it. I guess we will find out when we pull it.
>>>
>>> Definitely not CAS o-ring (recently replaced) due to the weep hole leak.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Ray Ayala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Rear engine seal or front trans seal?   (or CAS o-ring?)
>>>>
>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>> *From:* Robert McElwee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> *To:* miatapower List <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 20, 2008 2:07 PM
>>>> *Subject:* Tips for Installing a new rear main seal ???
>>>>
>>>>  My oil leak is getting a little worse and I think I am close to
>>>> pulling the seal and replacing it. I have had a new seal laying around
>>>> forever but have been too lazy to pull the tranny and do the work. I know
>>>> how to pull the tranny but anyone have tip for pulling the seal or 
>>>> replacing
>>>> it?  Just looking for any little tricks you guys may have up your sleeve...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>>
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>>
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>
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>
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