Another way is to physically block off the two normal air sources (main TB and 
idle air intake hose) and then you can usually hear where the air is getting 
in.  I use a large jar lid to block off the main TB inlet.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Larry Alster 
  To: 'Robert McElwee' 
  Cc: 'Bill Cardell' ; 'Miata Power List' 
  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 5:28 PM
  Subject: RE: strange bipes, ecu, tps, etc problem


  Next time don't light the torch!

   

   

   

  Larry
   
  White Knight      1991 Crystal White   #99 CSP
  Silver Bullet        1992 Silverstone     #17 SM2  FM I+ Turbo
  Honey B             1992 Sunburst Yellow #99 SM2L  JR Supercharger
  Whooosh           2004 Titanium Mazdaspeed MX-5
   
  LowCountry Miata  http://www.lowcountrymiataclub.net
  Masters Miata
  RAGS 074

   

  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert McElwee
  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 6:48 PM
  To: Larry Alster
  Cc: Bill Cardell; Miata Power List
  Subject: Re: strange bipes, ecu, tps, etc problem

   

  I have never been able to get that to work. Everyone tells me it does work, I 
see nothing wrong with the theory, but in practice it doesn't work for me. I've 
tried several times with poor results. I will, however, try it again <G>.



  On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Larry Alster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  Propane!

   

   

   

  Larry
   
  White Knight      1991 Crystal White   #99 CSP
  Silver Bullet        1992 Silverstone     #17 SM2  FM I+ Turbo
  Honey B             1992 Sunburst Yellow #99 SM2L  JR Supercharger
  Whooosh           2004 Titanium Mazdaspeed MX-5
   
  LowCountry Miata  http://www.lowcountrymiataclub.net
  Masters Miata
  RAGS 074

   

  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert McElwee
  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:42 PM


  To: Bill Cardell
  Cc: Miata Power List
  Subject: Re: strange bipes, ecu, tps, etc problem

   

     It is raining here so the car may not get much work done on it today. I 
just took another look at vac tubing including the back of the intake manifold 
and it looks good. I may plug some ends, put some pressure on it and get out my 
trusty mustard bottle full of soapy water to see if I can find a leak. I'll 
check for grounding on the switch. Thanks for the help!

  On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Bill Cardell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  not if there is a short somewhere in the harness telling it the idle switch 
is closed.

   

  Bill Cardell 
  TurboDog's Dad 
  www.flyinmiata.com 
  www.fmwestfield.com 
  Sales 1-800-359-6957 
  Tech 970-464-5600 Before you call, check out http://www.flyinmiata.com/FAQ/ 
  Come to our Open House! August 14-17 

   

   


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  From: Robert McElwee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:04 PM
  To: Bill Cardell
  Cc: Miata Power List


  Subject: Re: strange bipes, ecu, tps, etc problem

   

  But the TPS cable is unplugged. Does this matter? I thought that disabled the 
decel fuel cut off?

  On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Bill Cardell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  If it's going up to 2k and cutting off, it's trying to tell you there is 
extra air getting around the throttle plate, causing the decel fuel cut to kick 
in.

   

  Bill Cardell 
  TurboDog's Dad 
  www.flyinmiata.com 
  www.fmwestfield.com 

  Sales 1-800-359-6957 
  Tech 970-464-5600 Before you call, check out http://www.flyinmiata.com/FAQ/ 
  Come to our Open House! August 14-17 

   

   


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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert McElwee

  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 8:30 AM
  To: Miata Power List 


  Subject: Re: strange bipes, ecu, tps, etc problem

   

  This morning I took a preliminary look at the car. While cold, the idle hunts 
from 0-2000 RPM. I checked the codes (2 & 17 - NE Signal and O2 not changing) 
and then cleared them. All vacuum hoses look fine (oops, didn't check on the 
back of the intake manifold but I'll check later). I bypassed/jumped the bipes 
CAS connectors, disconnected the TPS connector, jumped GND/TEN, visually 
inspected and cleaned the CAS connector at the CAS, and played with the idle 
screw (yeah, I know). The car is still hunting at cold idle. Will try to take 
another look at it later today. Any ideas?


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