Also, the extra box by the ECU has nothing to do with the ABS box--that's in the engine bay right by the wiper motor (passenger side corner near the firewall). Chuck...think it might be something for the J&S or maybe an old Powercard?
-Bryan --- On Thu, 9/11/08, Chuck Wills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Chuck Wills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Expensive lesson To: "pm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Miata Power List" <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 11:28 AM There were many 1.8 kits sold that had *no fuel management to speak of* - it relied on a resistor in the air temp sensor line, and sometimes there was a pressure switch in the dummy throttle body that would only cut the resistor in during boost. This was a real crap fuel solution. You are correct - the BPL-9 is the ECU. If you have a knock sensor, then most likely you have a J&S knock sensor somewhere. I'm guessing that's what is plugged in to the CAS wiring. The J&S used to be a little black box, and sometimes had an LED readout for knock and AFR. My first JRSC install was set up this way - no fuel management and a J&S to keep detonation at bay. It was the worst management scenario possible - as the J&S does not pull timing until knock is happening. (newer J&S are better than the old ones, and have some pre-knock retard capability, btw). I'm not surprised that things melted down on you. If you confirm that you have a J&S, you might want to adjust the sensitivity... or sell it and get a timing controller that will pull timing based on boost/rpm/temp. You really need a fuel solution though. An AFPR and better pump will probably do the trick, and won't be terribly expensive. An electronic solution like the FM Voodoo Box or Power Card from Moss will work as well. If you are sticking with 6psi non-intercooled, you'll probably get the best drivability out of the voodoo box. There are lots of different solutions and combinations of things you can use. it kinda comes down to how much you want to screw with it and budget. -Chuck pm wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Chuck Wills <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > You really need to find out exactly what you've got for engine > management. I have a feeling that is the root of the high engine > mortality rate. > > > sorry that my questions are rather elementary but i am trying. the > vavle which literally melted at 90K would indicate a lean issue at > that time, right? see my answers inline below. > > > The JRSC came with various fuel and ignition solutions over the > years... and several of the solutions really sucked. > > > what are my options at this point? > > > > Depending on the year of the car, the ECU is at the passenger's > feet under the carpet (1.6 cars) or behind the passenger seat (1.8 > cars through 97). > > > i have a 95, 1.8L. there are 2 boxes behind the pass seat, a > rectanglar one i believe is the abs brain, the other is more square > and has "Denso" and "BPL 9" on it. i believe this is the stock unit, > right? > > > Look for any additional "black boxes" wired in at the ECU, or any > wire splices. Under the hood, look for an AFPR (looks like a > flying saucer with 2 fuel lines running from it), > > > > the splices are at the cam position sensor at the grey/4 pin > connector. there is also a black 4 pin connector which goes from the > blower to the front engine wiring harness (where the PS wire is) and > disappears there. you probably want me to trace that wire, right? > > the fuel lines go directly to the fuel rail. there is a round piece > which i believe is the stock fuel pressure regulator at the fuel rail. > > there is a *knock sensor* on the right side near/on the motor > mount/starter assembly > > > > or maybe a rectangular box that says "MSD". > > > i know what these look like, dont have this. > > > thanks, > peter > > -- > Medio tutissmus ibis > You will go most safely by the middle course _______________________________________________ Miatapower mailing list [email protected] http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower
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