Behind the seat - ABS EBCM - In the bay - Pump/ Valve distribution unit.

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Chuck Wills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Good call Bryan-
> I don't know nothin' about ABS... so, yeah, it could be the J&S or PC. :)
> Peter - see if you can find any identifying markings on that box.
> -CW
>
> Bryan Wyatt wrote:
>
>   Also, the extra box by the ECU has nothing to do with the ABS
> box--that's in the engine bay right by the wiper motor (passenger side
> corner near the firewall).  Chuck...think it might be something for the J&S
> or maybe an old Powercard?
>
> -Bryan
>
> --- On *Thu, 9/11/08, Chuck Wills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * wrote:
>
> From: Chuck Wills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Expensive lesson
> To: "pm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Miata Power List" <[email protected]><[email protected]>
> Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 11:28 AM
>
> There were many 1.8 kits sold that had *no fuel management to speak of*
> - it relied on a resistor in the air temp sensor line, and sometimes
> there was a pressure switch in the
>  dummy throttle body that would only
> cut the resistor in during boost.  This was a real crap fuel solution.
>
> You are correct - the BPL-9 is the ECU.
> If you have a knock sensor, then most likely you have a J&S knock sensor
> somewhere.  I'm guessing that's what is plugged in to the CAS wiring.
> The J&S used to be a little black box, and sometimes had an LED readout
> for knock and AFR.
>
> My first JRSC install was set up this way - no fuel management and a J&S
> to keep detonation at bay.  It was the worst management scenario
> possible - as the J&S does not pull timing until knock is happening.
> (newer J&S are better than the old ones, and have some pre-knock retard
> capability, btw).  I'm not surprised that things melted down on you.
>
> If you confirm that you have a J&S, you might want to adjust the
> sensitivity... or sell it and get a timing controller that will pull
> timing based on
>  boost/rpm/temp.
>
> You really need a fuel solution though.  An AFPR and better pump will
> probably do the trick, and won't be terribly expensive.  An electronic
> solution like the FM Voodoo Box or Power Card from Moss will work as
> well.  If you are sticking with 6psi non-intercooled, you'll probably
> get the best drivability out of the voodoo box.
>
> There are lots of different solutions and combinations of things you can
> use.  it kinda comes down to how much you want to screw with it and budget.
>
> -Chuck
>
>
> pm wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Chuck Wills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> >
> >     You really need to find out exactly what you've got for engine
> >     management.  I have a feeling that is the root of the high engine
> >     mortality rate.
> >
> >
> > sorry that my questions are rather
>  elementary but i  am trying.  the
> > vavle which literally melted at 90K would indicate a lean issue at
> > that time, right? see my answers inline below.
> >
> >
> >     The JRSC came with various fuel and ignition solutions over the
> >     years... and several of the solutions really sucked.
> >
> >
> > what are my options at this point?
> >
> >
> >
> >     Depending on the year of the car, the ECU is at the passenger's
> >     feet under the carpet (1.6 cars) or behind the passenger seat (1.8
> >     cars through 97).
> >
> >
> > i have a 95, 1.8L.  there are 2 boxes behind the pass seat,  a
> > rectanglar one i believe is the abs brain,  the other is more square
> > and has "Denso" and "BPL 9" on it.  i believe this is
> the stock unit,
> > right?
> >
> >
> >     Look for any additional "black boxes" wired in at the ECU,
> or any
> >
>   wire splices.  Under the hood, look for an AFPR (looks like a
> >     flying saucer with 2 fuel lines running from it),
> >
> >
> >
> > the splices are at the cam position sensor at the grey/4 pin
> > connector.  there is also a black 4 pin connector which goes from the
> > blower to the front engine wiring harness (where the PS wire is) and
> > disappears there.  you probably want me to trace that wire, right?
> >
> > the fuel lines go directly to the fuel rail.  there is a round piece
> > which i believe is the stock fuel pressure regulator at the fuel rail.
> >
> > there is a *knock sensor* on the right side near/on the motor
> > mount/starter assembly
> >
> >
> >
> >     or maybe a rectangular box that says "MSD".
> >
> >
> > i know what these look like, dont have this.
> >
> >
> > thanks,
> > peter
> >
> > --
> > Medio
>  tutissmus ibis
> > You will go most safely by the middle course
>
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