You need to look at how it varies. There are some good articles online
about how to test by looking at cross-counts, the number of times the
voltage crosses the stoich point at .45v. Typically easiest to do with a
scope. Some good info here: http://mr2.com/TEXT/O2_Sensor.html
 

Bill Cardell 
TurboDog's Dad 
www.flyinmiata.com 
www.fmwestfield.com 
Sales 1-800-359-6957 
Tech 970-464-5600 Before you call, check out
http://www.flyinmiata.com/FAQ/ 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Wolf
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 9:34 AM
To: Miata Power List
Subject: Re: OBDII readiness monitors...


Ok, I got another question. Anyone know what the stock ECU likes the
rear O2 sensor max value to be? Like, is there a high value that makes
the ECU start looking to throw a bad cat code? 

I ask because I've logged some actual interesting data. Got my spiffy
scanner all hooked up -
http://www.amazon.com/Equus-3130-Diagnostic-Capability-Post-1996/dp/B000
KID31K/ref=pd_bbs_sr_7?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&qid=1222702093&sr=8-7 
and working. Far more data than the scangauge2.  I now know that indeed
all of my sensors are functional. On cruise, my rear o2 sensor reports
between .03 (yeah, point zero three) and .2. Nice, low o2 readings. The
reading tends to live between .03 and .08 most of the time. I see around
.5 when I take off from a light, which seems fine to me. On the freeway
at 70-80 mph, I see a range of .2 to .8, which seems high. Mostly it
stays between .5 and .8....  

my current theory: these high o2 readings are canceling any o2/cat tests
that the ECU might be getting ready to do. Does this sound at all
logical? 

thanks! 

Adam


On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Adam Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


        I've been working on this more (still haven't had the monitors
change to set). I bought myself a very nice looking scan tool which
should arrive today, so I'll undoubtedly have more questions/data on
this problem. 
        
        My new question: is it possible to have the EGR monitor set
before the O2/cat monitors? I ask this specifically for the 96-97 ECUs.
In my (limited) experience, the EGR is always the last monitor to set on
this ecu. If I could get it to set before the o2/cat, all of my problems
would be solved. I can pass with 2 unset monitors... 
        
        thx! 
        
        Adam 


        On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Bill Cardell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
        

                Matt, email me a fax and I'll send you the factory
manual pages on the
                drive cycle they want.
                


                Bill Cardell
                TurboDog's Dad
                www.flyinmiata.com
                www.fmwestfield.com
                
                orders 1-800-FLY-MX5S
                Before you call our tech line (970.464.5600) please
check out the FAQ
                section of our website
                



                -----Original Message-----
                From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                
                [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Matt Bennett
                Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:31 AM
                To: Miata Power List
                Subject: Re: OBDII readiness monitors...
                
                
                OK, so what are the codes or procedure you need to do to
get the
                readiness monitors?  I've got some very basic OBDII
tools (like an
                OBD2-serial port
                adapter) and I'd like to know how I can read them, and
what I should be
                getting back.  I've been looking all over for this
information, but I
                can't find it.
                
                Matt
                
                On Wed, September 17, 2008 8:32 pm, Ray Ayala wrote:
                > The rear O2/cat monitors require somewhat specialized
driving
                > conditions for performing their operability tests.
Maybe you just
                > didn't get into the right 'zone' for long enough.
They need
                > fully-warmed-up, steady-state, medium/low torque
freeway cruising for
                about 30 minutes ...
                > in 'moderate' weather conditions.
                >   ----- Original Message -----
                >   From: Adam Wolf
                >   To: Miata Power List
                >   Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:23 AM
                >   Subject: OBDII readiness monitors...
                >
                >
                >   I'm having a devil of a time and I'm hoping the list
can help me.
                >
                >   Car: 97 w/ 99 motor. I normally run the Link, but
had to swap the
                > stock ECU back in for emissions. I swapped ECUs a
month ago for my
                > e-test that has a deadline of this friday. I just took
the test and
                > failed in order to get the 1 year extension.
                >
                >   So here's new stuff. Some of this has been added
over the course of
                > the last month in an effort to get monitors to set.
New front o2
                > sensor. I recycled a 30k mile old o2 to replace my
original 125k stock
                
                > rear o2 sensor that I thought might be "tired". new
plug wires (it was
                
                > time), new-ish magnaflow cat (about 6 months since
putting that in).
                > Car runs fine. Not as smooth as with the Link, but
fine.
                >
                >   It REFUSES to set the o2, cat, and EGR monitors!
I've driven an
                > honest 500 miles in various conditions. I've performed
a handful of
                > different "drive cycles" I found on Miatanet including
one that
                > claimed to be for a 97 specifically. Still nothin. I
can have 2
                > monitors not ready in Albuquerque, but not 3. 3 is
fail.
                >
                >   Does anyone have any ideas? I never had this problem
before. On a
                > normal commute to work, this car would run and pass
all tests in 2
                > days (4 cold-start drives). But 2 years later after
running the Link,
                > there's no joy. I just need to get ONE more test to
run. I'm going
                crazy.
                >
                >   thanks,
                >
                >   Adam
                >
                >
                >
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