Not to hijack a wonderfully entertaining thread, but in the interest of public knowledge I am coming out. I want all of you to know that

I am ProChoice....
When it comes to....

                                        Incandescents vs CFLs

Personally, I think we should keep incandescents until the LED technology is here. The mercury in the CFLs will all end up in landfills. And all those bulbs are coming from China... where a new coal powered generation plant comes online weekly.

Government edicts didn't invent automobiles, the phone, airplanes, or most other major mass use equipment. With the exception of NASA, precious little intelligent thought has ever come from government. They simply are not good at it... The best minds end up in private enterprise - the 2nd rate losers end up as elected officials... running our government.

So why don't we leave inventing to private enterprise and universities. It is amazing how much good would come from this arena if they were left to their own devices.

If our present government controls had existed 150 years ago, we'd all still be on horses or in buggies. They'd be new and improved, but they'd still be here.

Government is a necessary evil and a drag on society... We need as little of it as is possible.

RE: Oceans Rising... Sounds like their might be a business opportunity for water gear for all those who fear that "Waterworld" is on the way! Maybe Bill should start a subsidiary. A turbo miata equivalent water vehicle.

If one pauses and thinks it through a little, the oceans are the last vestige of freedom left in the world. No one owns it, you can pretty much do whatever you like out in the middle of it... and 71% of the planet is still available to be exploited by man...

One last thing.... We really need to keep perspective here. No matter how good or bad we make this place, life will cease to exist here in about 500 million years. The planet has been here 4.5 billion years and life has been here for 3.5 billion, so we are well over the hump and on the downhill slide.

OK, I'm done... back to NMC MPC content!

Tony






[email protected] wrote:
In a message dated 3/28/2009 9:41:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes:

    "That terrible hole in the Ozone layer" has been there for how long?
    I think it has been there for a long time.  I think it was there long
    before people started releasing harmful chemicals into the atmosphere.
     There is evidence that it grows larger and then grows smaller at
    times.

Not that long, as time goes... and it is indeed a threat.

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