I had them put on minime's head studs and NONE of them came loose after nearly 
8k miles and about 10 track events. On the turbo and DP I was only using 
standard stover nuts on 8mm studs, but none of them backed out. Just last week 
I drilled out FrankenBRG's manifold and installed new 10mm studs for the turbo 
mount and am using Stage8 fasteners for the turbo mount as well as the manifold 
to head mount(as I had on minime) - they were very easy to install. 

Myron Ybarra has had them on his manifold for several years now(lots of track 
events) and none of them have backed out. 

Also(and I don't know why they don't state this on their website), but the 
locking retainers have a neat feature - if you flip them over they are offset 
13 degrees, so you should have little issue getting them abutted 

-Mike 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Emilio - 949Racing" <[email protected]> 
To: "MiataPower" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 10:37:14 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: loosening turbo to mani and turbo to d/p nuts 




That's good news. I'll start recommending them if it's proven fix to the stud 
problem. I'd heard the stage 8's were rather tricky to get installed. 

























Emilio Cervantes 
www.949Racing.com 
26242 Dimension Dr #130 
Lake Forest, CA 92630 
949.716.3111 phone / fax 





From: Bill Cardell <[email protected]> 
To: Emilio - 949Racing <[email protected]>; MiataPower 
<[email protected]> 
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 10:04:08 PM 
Subject: RE: loosening turbo to mani and turbo to d/p nuts 


We have had studs come out, mainly on track driven cars. I'd have to disagree 
about the stage 8s, though. They also address the stud coming out. 


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Bill Cardell 
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From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Emilio - 949Racing 
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 9:40 PM 
To: MiataPower 
Subject: Re: loosening turbo to mani and turbo to d/p nuts 



My experience has been that its more the studs backing out. So even, stage 8's, 
Nordlocks, safety wire and what not doesn't always fix it. Someone at MRLS 
mentioned that FM may be switching to or optionally offering 10mm studs with 
their kits. The extra surface area does seem to make them stay put longer. 10m 
studs have been de rigueur for turbo Miatas that see a lot of track use but its 
trickling down to street cars slower it seems. I haven't tried green, hi temp 
cylindrical bonding Loctite but that might help. Another fix might be staking 
them, but that may raise cracking issues with cast manifolds. 

Jason, you don't track your car do you? That's when stuff falls off :) I've 
seen daily driven turbo cars that have never had an an issue on the street, not 
make one session at the track before a stud or two backs out. 

But to answer your question yes, it's endemic for turbo track miatas. 



























Emilio Cervantes 
www.949Racing.com 
26242 Dimension Dr #130 
Lake Forest, CA 92630 
949.716.3111 phone / fax 



On 2009-04-02 03:05 , Jason C wrote: 
> A lot of people seem to have this problem (though not me)....I want to 
> understand why some do and some don't. Â Some do despite the fancy serrated 
> FM washers.Do FM see this problem? 



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