i thought the gas was street gas. calif 91 to be exact.
you are right it is detonation that the issue at hand. 100 octane obviously pushes that out.
i meant with street gas, 15psi is about what i've seen run safely.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Stock 1.6l w/FM2 kit, mechanical limits with regard to
boost and advance?
From: [email protected]
Date: Tue, July 27, 2010 7:43 pm
To: Alpinaturbo <[email protected]>
Cc: "<[email protected]>" <[email protected]>,
MataPowerList <[email protected]>
I am the buyer of his car, he was running water injection as well.
Regards,
Vito Caputo
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 07:41:19PM -0700, Alpinaturbo wrote:
> Dear friend Mike Shapiro ran 1.6 for years and tens of thousands of miles, selling eventually the car/no failure, at 18-20psi running 100 octane and advanced timing.
> Many on M.net have done it, data is available, just search.
> No need to take any opinion for guidance, look for owner feedback with data points to build a case for forming an informed belief.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 27, 2010, at 7:01 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > i been following this since Christ was a corporal, and a properly tuned 15psi has always been the safe limit that I have heard of. on a 1.6 thats about 220rwhp.
> >
> > these normally durable engines are very unforgiving of detonation under boost.
> >
> > a set of low comp pistons and better rods really pays off if you can sustain the cost of those and a rebuild.
> >
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: Stock 1.6l w/FM2 kit, mechanical limits with regard to
> > boost and advance?
> > From: Alpinaturbo <[email protected]>
> > Date: Tue, July 27, 2010 6:49 pm
> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> >
> > Ian
> >
> > 1.6 does not generate torque and this rod breaking stress like 99 and up 1.8
> >
> > I am confident into 18psi on stock 1.6 w/t28 maximized on e85
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Jul 27, 2010, at 6:39 PM, Ian McCloghrie <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > On Jul 27, 2010 [email protected] wrote:
> > >> My question is what are the safe limits of boost and ignition advance
> > >> one can run when there's enough octane to not knock? When do the rods
> > >> and/or pistons give up on the stock 1.6l?
> > >
> > > The general feeling seems to be that once you start exceeding 250 rwhp
> > > (at stock rev limit) you should worry about the life of your rods.
> > >
> > > Not sure about pistons -- most failures of those that I've seen on the
> > > net seem to be head/detonation-related, rather than power.
> > >
> > > --Ian
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