Interesting - do you know of NBs using the MS-II? I considered selling my MS-I and NA CAS and using stock NB sensors with the MS-II, but that was barely charted territory.
I think that was the case as of about 8 months ago. On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Stephanie Turner < [email protected]> wrote: > I’ve had several customers pass with just the turbo kit installed. No > fueling, no electronics, nothing extra. Everyone has sort of indicated that > they do not go looking for every single little part that is listed on the > EO. If you do not pass with the MS, just uninstall it and the injectors. MS2 > is more popular in the NB’s, agreed. But it will probably still work. > > > > Stephanie > > > > BEGi / Bell Engineering > > Phone: 830.438.2890 > > Fax: 830.438.8361 > > www.bellengineering.net > > > > Please include all previous correspondence when replying to an e-mail. > Prices quoted are good for 30 days. > > [image: > https://imgssl.constantcontact.com/ui/images1/visitor/email5_trans.gif]<http://visitor.constantcontact.com/d.jsp?m=1103364066019&p=oi> > > Sign up for our Email > Newsletter<http://visitor.constantcontact.com/d.jsp?m=1103364066019&p=oi> > > > > > > *From:* Dillon [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Monday, November 08, 2010 1:56 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Cc:* MiataPower > *Subject:* Re: turbo advice > > > > Thanks for the info. I figure I'll need a pump (and maybe injectors if > fuel flow calls for it) but that I'd give the MS control over fuel & timing. > If that + the EO # doesn't get me through inspection, then I guess I could > get creative and/or swap parts. > > > > The consensus seems to be that my plan to go MS is still a good one, even > though I'm going slightly off the beaten path with an MS-I in an NB. > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Stephanie Turner < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Dillon, > > As far as CARB legality goes, they care more about parts installed that do > not have an EO # more than they care about a part from the EO missing. I > would not worry so much about the FMU and fuel pump not being on the car. If > you truly needed one for inspection, we’d be happy to loan you one for > inspection purposes. > > > > If you used the MS in parallel, “technically” is qualifies as an ignition > timing retard device. If you plan to use the MS, you will need to use an > alternator from a 94-97 car, or install a voltage regulator on the MS. Also, > programming will be needed if you wish to use the a/c. > > > > There are plenty of people who can tune the MS in CA. I will do some > checking for you. > > Let me know if I can help! > > Stephanie > > > > BEGi / Bell Engineering > > Phone: 830.438.2890 > > Fax: 830.438.8361 > > www.bellengineering.net > > > > Please include all previous correspondence when replying to an e-mail. > Prices quoted are good for 30 days. > > [image: > https://imgssl.constantcontact.com/ui/images1/visitor/email5_trans.gif]<http://visitor.constantcontact.com/d.jsp?m=1103364066019&p=oi> > > Sign up for our Email > Newsletter<http://visitor.constantcontact.com/d.jsp?m=1103364066019&p=oi> > > > > > > *From:* Dillon [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Sunday, November 07, 2010 1:40 PM > *To:* MiataPower > *Subject:* turbo advice > > > > Ever since picking up my '99 10AE almost 4 years ago, I've been planning > ... and replanning ... and replanning it's FI setup. I've got plenty of > excuses. In the intervening years I've lived in Illinois, Washington, > California, been working on the east coast and spent some time abroad. In > short, I move around too much to keep any tools, much less find time to work > on the car when we are in the same place. Two years ago I injured my > shoulder, so to add injury to insult I'm now physically incapable of turning > a wrench. That'll get better with time, but I'm sick of waiting. I want my > turbo now damnit. > > > > Anyhow, I kept up with the planning and I eventually settled on an > inter-cooled Garrett T2554 or T2560, probably using hardware from BEGI (for > the EO #), and rolling my own engine management with a Megasquirt MS1 (in > parallel with stock ECU) & LC1 wideband. I acquired & physically installed > the wideband, I have the megasquirt built, and the wiring harness made for > the parallel install. I have an NA CAS on-hand, though I've since learned > there are some downsides to this. Perhaps a modified crank trigger would be > better. Now the MS2 is an option too. > > > > After I started down that path, I moved to California. I'm going to have > to get my first emissions test here in the next few months which is throwing > a wrench in my plans. I'm also going to have someone install the hardware > and tune it for me. > > > > This leaves me with some new questions. > > > > 1. I may stay here in CA for a while, therefore I'd like for the new > turbo to be CARB legal. I understand I can get a BEGI S1/2/3 with a CARB > EO > #, whose papers list an unspecified "ignition retard device". The CARB > device as sold by BEGi has no ignition retard, only a fuel pump and FPR. > There are folks who added an MS or Xede for timing and passed. I'm going > to have to get tested before May if I do stay, so this is a factor in my > plans. Am I likely to get through on an MS1, or should I just register the > car now and get tested while nearly stock (which requires that I fix the > P0402)? > 2. Given my new desire to have the system installed by someone with > time and tools, is my parts list still good? I like the idea of going > Megasquirt, as it will tie into some of my future project to build a > touch-screen navigation / stereo / digital gauge display into the dash. I > will go another route though if reputable installers don't know how to tune > a Megasquirt. > > > 1. BEGI S2 or S3 > 2. Megasquirt MS1 installed in parallel (stock ECU handles a/c, > alternator, idle control, OBD-II reporting) > 3. LC-1 wideband > > - Dillon > > > > > > > > >
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