Jerry, "no air temp sender" You just answered your own question. No sensor makes the link assume 100C, which is the limit. As soon as you get into load it will shut you down. No way around it but installing a sensor. pg52, 1E of troubleshooting in the tuning manual. from the installation manual:
Since the FM ECU's initial design we have added an intake air temperature sensor. To utilize this new feature one wire will have to be moved in the ECU plug. Note: The intake air temperature sensor is not optional, it must be used in order for the FM ECU to work properly. Bill Cardell TurboDog's Dad www.flyinmiata.com www.fmwestfield.com orders 1-800-FLY-MX5S Before you call our tech line (970.464.5600) please check out the FAQ <http://www.flyinmiata.com/FAQ/> section of our website ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jerry Malsam Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 3:10 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: It's ALIVE (sort of) Getting there... Car starts in 1-2 cranks, idles great, and behaves well under part-throttle conditions. The current problem is that the engine falls flat on its face at WOT. It's not sputtering and missing; rather, it feels like hitting a hard rev limiter, and doesn't re-fire until I back off the throttle. I got DataLogLab fully working -- on a Windows 7 laptop with a USB-serial adapter, no less -- and was able to pull some datalogs. (DLL file and screenshot attached) Checking the datalog, the problem is obvious: Fuel injectors cut to zero at WOT. Any ideas why? Current setup is normally aspirated, '97 block with '99 head, 550cc RC injectors, Link ECU with 17-Jan-2002 chip (working on getting that updated), no air temp sensor, no O2 sensor (external AEM WB02 gauge), and rev limit set to 7200rpm. I haven't tried turning off auto-tuning yet. FWIW, I don't care about max performance for now. The goal is to squash any bugs (while putting some break-in miles on the engine) before strapping on the turbo and going big. On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Jerry Malsam <[email protected]> wrote: Bill had it -- the TPS needed adjustment, per the FM2 manual. Solved that problem. Got a stickier problem now, and my Google fu is failing, but I was pretty sure this had been discussed: Since the Link was tuned for 550cc injectors, and the car is now running stock '99 injectors, the engine falls flat on its face at WOT, so I hooked up a laptop to retune fuel. The ignition was in the ON position for a few minutes to supply power to the ECU while I messed with laptop's COM ports, trying to connect. Then I heard liquid dripping onto the concrete from the engine bay. For some reason the injectors had stuck open and the powered fuel pump had filled the cylinders and intake with fuel -- gas was dripping out the air filter! So we got all the fuel (about a gallon!) drained out from places it shouldn't be, and the engine should be safe in that regard, but why would the injectors stick open? I hadn't changed any ECU settings, and the car has been left ON previously without incident. (FWIW, we're putting the RC 550cc injectors back in; I'm thinking the car should run okay on them without much of any retuning since we're staying boost-free for a while.) On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Ray <[email protected]> wrote: If that doesn't do it, can you collect datalogs? ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Cardell <mailto:[email protected]> To: Jerry Malsam <mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 11:05 AM Subject: RE: It's ALIVE (sort of) Check your idle switch setting. Asterisk in the idle window should be on at idle, should go away as soon as you touch the throttle. My guess is the switch is still closed when you have the throttle slightly opened. Bill Cardell TurboDog's Dad Flyin' Miata 1-800-359-6967 (sales) 970-464-5600 (tech support) www.flyinmiata.com www.fmwestfield.com ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jerry Malsam Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 9:28 AM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: It's ALIVE (sort of) My project Miata is running, though not yet in it's full glory. We're running it normally aspirated for the first 500 miles just to break in the motor before strapping on the turbo. We're having some problems with an apparent fuel-cut under part-throttle, low load conditions. The cut-out cycles about once per second. No stumble, no missing, just a clean cutoff, then as rpm drops it comes back on. The WBO2 gauge shows full lean when this happens. (WBO2 not connected to the Link ECU at this point.) The current setup is a built '97 bottom end with a '99 head, running stock injectors, naturally aspirated for now. ECU is a Link from a year 2000-era FM2 kit, using a MAP sensor. Any ideas as to what could be causing this fuel cut? Doesn't sound like a fuel pressure issue. I can't think of anything within the Link that would cut fuel like that. I'll have some time to play with it this weekend (I'm out of town until Friday), but for now I'd like to give my mechanic (Henry Payne, CCed) some things to check. Thanks, guys! --Jerry ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Miatapower mailing list [email protected] http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower _______________________________________________ Miatapower mailing list [email protected] http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower -- Jerry Malsam Legend Consulting mobile: 864-386-1130 e-mail: [email protected] -- Jerry Malsam Legend Consulting mobile: 864-386-1130 e-mail: [email protected]
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