Latest issue, My RR caliper decided to spring a leak. Fixed that today and I attempted to go for a drive and I didn't make it half way down the block and it died. Died 6 more time on the way back to the house. The car idled for over an hour yesterday and did not reset. It was continued running when I remounted the ECU assy without resetting which gave me the impression that the flaky connection was cured.....NOPE. This is VERY frustrating. the car is not much use when I can't even drive it to the corner.
Eric On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Eric McCord <[email protected]>wrote: > Steve - I hope you were successful! > > I decided to revisit some solder repairs I made without the aid of a > magnifier.....found a couple that might have melted the coating under the > solder. I have those repaired and ohmed out every pin to a common point on > the board. I reinstalled the Link about 20 minutes ago and the car is still > idling as I type this. I have not wiggled or drove it yet, I am going to see > how long it stays running. Fingers, toes and eyes crossed here....... > > Eric > > > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 4:33 AM, Stephen Rigley <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I resoldered about half the joints on the board at the weekend, did wiggle >> test, did tap test, went for a drive, no reboot so far. Think I might have >> it fixed, fingers crossed. >> Steve >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Eric McCord <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> I'm still beating my head against a wall with mine too. I can't get it to >>> fail the same way enough to isolate the problem. I can get it to cut out >>> wiggling the wires sometimes and other times by tapping on various >>> components on the ECU. I was thinking of reinstalling my stock ECU and not >>> starting but wiggling the wires to see if it's just wiring, but I don't know >>> if the wire changes would somehow allow the stock ECU to fry a sensor. >>> On Jul 2, 2011 11:13 AM, "Stephen Rigley" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > I resoldered just the connector pins this morning, ECU didn't reboot on >>> > wiggle test but would when the cover was tapped lightly. So, its out >>> again, >>> > think I'll touch up all joints tonight. I'll be looking for a used >>> board if >>> > this doesn't work I guess. >>> > Steve >>> > >>> > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Jesus Lara <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> >> ** >>> >> I was having the same problem for a few months. I finally went crazy >>> and >>> >> re-soldered every joint that was not shiny, clean and the correct >>> shape. If >>> >> it looked funny in any way it got wicked up and new solder put down. I >>> >> redid at least a quarter of the board and the harness connector, going >>> on >>> >> four months and not one cut out (knock on wood). >>> >> >>> >> On 6/16/2011 12:22 PM, Eric McCord wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Latest update. I drove into work the other day and rebuilt the wire >>> from >>> >> the Link to the Keypad. Also, I re flowed one of the solder points on >>> the >>> >> keypad that looked like it might have been a cracked solder joint. >>> When I >>> >> drove home that night I had no cut outs. The next day I drove into >>> work and >>> >> it cut out once. Then on the way home it did it several times. Today I >>> tried >>> >> the wiggle test on all the wires I could think of, and it didn't cut >>> >> out.......but it did twice while was just standing there. Something >>> else I >>> >> notice was when the Link resets it turns Security back on. Not >>> >> very reassuring if the keypad dies out on the road. >>> >> >>> >> At this point my Miata is no longer dependable enough even just to >>> drive >>> >> to and from work, let alone taking me and my daughter out on 5k mile >>> road >>> >> trips like it has the past 2 summers. We were planing a NE trip this >>> year. >>> >> >>> >> Eric >>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Eric McCord <[email protected] >>> >wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> I will try that, but I built a new cable using a round cable that is >>> very >>> >>> durable using new ends. I don't think the cable is the issue. If I >>> >>> disconnect it and it still reboots that would rule it out. >>> >>> On Jun 7, 2011 9:27 PM, "Ray Ayala" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > And as somebody else already mentioned, don't forget a wiggle test >>> of >>> >>> the keypad cable at both ends. I've seen the connectors fail at both >>> ends >>> >>> and I've also seen the flat cable's insulation fail where the cable >>> passes >>> >>> under the ECU's cover. >>> >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> > From: Bill Cardell >>> >>> > To: Eric McCord ; Stephen Rigley >>> >>> > Cc: List, Miata Power >>> >>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:57 AM >>> >>> > Subject: RE: 91 Link FM2 cutting out and surging..... >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > If it's rebooting, it's telling you where to look. You're losing >>> power >>> >>> or ground, so I'd be looking at main relay, etc. >>> >>> > And Steve, you lucky bastard seeing the GP. Boring as it was. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Bill Cardell >>> >>> > TurboDog's Dad >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Flyin' Miata >>> >>> > HELP FLYIN' MIATA GO TO TARGA NEWFOUNDLAND! >>> >>> > Targa Miata Facebook page >>> >>> > FMWestfield >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Sales 1-800-359-6957 >>> >>> > Tech 970-464-5600 Before you call, check out >>> >>> http://www.flyinmiata.com/FAQ/ >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> > From: [email protected] [mailto: >>> >>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Eric McCord >>> >>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 11:20 AM >>> >>> > To: Stephen Rigley >>> >>> > Cc: List, Miata Power >>> >>> > Subject: Re: 91 Link FM2 cutting out and surging..... >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Steve, >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > I had the ECU out this winter and there were no cold solder joints. >>> I >>> >>> was leaning that way last fall. I am starting to think that the >>> problem is >>> >>> centering around the connectors to the ECU. If your problem is the >>> same then >>> >>> taking out your ECU would have reseated the connectors when you >>> reinstalled. >>> >>> My car was dying continuously when I parked it. I took it for a short >>> drive >>> >>> after getting the WB02 hooked up and there was no cutting out. It >>> made it >>> >>> all the way to work yesterday without rebooting. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Eric >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Stephen Rigley <[email protected]> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Hi Eric, >>> >>> > >>> >>> > I'm having very similar issues for the 2nd time, last time it was >>> fixed >>> >>> by retouching the solder on the connector pins on the ECU, MAP box >>> and >>> >>> Keypad. >>> >>> > It started happening this time a few weeks ago, 1 hour into a >>> 3500km >>> >>> drive to the Spanish GP. Same thing every morning until we warmed up >>> the >>> >>> floor with the exhaust ;-) Until then, the car would die every few >>> minutes >>> >>> and I'd yell at my passenger to stomp the floor and off we would go >>> again. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Steve >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Eric McCord < >>> [email protected]> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Surge turned out to just be a vacuum leak. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Bruce - I already built a new cable. So that option seems unlikely. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Ray - Unfortunately I lost my Link interface box years ago. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Bill - Last fall I was talking with Kieth and he had me do as you >>> >>> instruct. It rebooted. I was hoping the surge and reboots occurring >>> at the >>> >>> same time would have help me isolate the problem, but that isn't the >>> case. >>> >>> We are getting rain for the next few days so I will look at the >>> wiring again >>> >>> next chance I get. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Eric >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Bill Cardell <[email protected] >>> > >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > >>> >>> > As Ray said, datalogs would help a lot. Something simple you can do >>> is >>> >>> select any window other than rpm in the keypad and leave it there >>> while >>> >>> you're driving. If the car cuts out, look at the keypad before you >>> turn the >>> >>> key off. Is it still in the window where you left it or is it now in >>> rpm? If >>> >>> rpm window, it means you have rebooted, so start looking at power and >>> >>> grounds. Wiggle tests can help, as can a multimeter that gives you >>> max/min >>> >>> measurements so you can drive with the meter on say the 12v supply >>> and then >>> >>> look at the meter if the car dies to see if you have lost the 12v. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Bill Cardell >>> >>> > TurboDog's Dad >>> >>> > Flyin' Miata >>> >>> > 1-800-359-6967 (sales) >>> >>> > 970-464-5600 (tech support) >>> >>> > www.flyinmiata.com >>> >>> > www.fmwestfield.com >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> > From: [email protected] [mailto: >>> >>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Eric McCord >>> >>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 12:53 AM >>> >>> > To: List, Miata Power >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Subject: 91 Link FM2 cutting out and surging..... >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > ok.....I finally got my 91 back out on the road. I have the WB02 >>> >>> installed and all seemed well on the drive into work (35 miles). No >>> surging >>> >>> at idle and no cutting out while driving. When I started home after >>> work the >>> >>> ECU drop outs started and the surging is back. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > I had the Link out earlier and checked for cold solder >>> joints....none >>> >>> found. I reseated the chip and checked all the connections at the >>> ECU. What >>> >>> could cause both the hunting for idle and dropping out the ECU >>> causing the >>> >>> engine to die? I am thinking a ground problem, but I wanted to float >>> this >>> >>> out to the collective to see if there is some other explanation. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Eric >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> >>> > Miatapower mailing list >>> >>> > [email protected] >>> >>> > http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> >>> > Miatapower mailing list >>> >>> > [email protected] >>> >>> > http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower >>> >>> >>> >> at the connector on the ypad >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Miatapower mailing [email protected]:// >>> list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Miatapower mailing list >>> >> [email protected] >>> >> http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >
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