I used a "formula" on garagejournal.com for figuring lights. I've got 14 twin 
tube T8 flourescents for just under 900sqft. It's adequate, but there are a few 
spots that could use more light.


On Oct 13, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Bill Cardell wrote:

> Light is critical. spend a few extra bucks and get ballasts that work in the 
> cold, unless you will be heated all the time. Otherwise you'll be buying new 
> lights every year.
> 
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> 
> On Oct 12, 2011, at 1:55 PM, "Wiseman, Curtis J" <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Mark has some great ideas, especially for Northern climes (porous floor, 
>> plywood).
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> It’s sort of like when somebody asks which FI system is best.  The choir 
>> chimes in to ask “how do you plan to use it?”  Is your garage a work space, 
>> a man-cave, a mother-in-law suite?  Do you have buddies over or work by 
>> yourself?  Do you care what it looks like or just how it functions?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Generic suggestion though: LOTS of light.  You can always turn some off if 
>> you want, but lots and lots of fluorescent fixtures make it easier on aging 
>> eyes to see that @#*%$# fitting. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: [email protected] 
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Cookson
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:36 PM
>> To: Ken Bogart
>> Cc: Miatapower ([email protected])
>> Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Wally's future Garage-Mahal
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Two things that I did that I really liked in my first garage:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Covered the walls in 3/8 plywood instead of drywall (mount anything anywhere 
>> without worry)
>> 
>> Ran hard lines with air fittings about every 15' (about 8 connections) and 
>> had two retractable reels on the ceiling for instant use; one air, one 
>> electric.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I also have a wash basin (but only cold water, might consider a small hot 
>> water heater) and more power outlets than you can shake a stick at, 
>> including one in the middle of the floor for the table saw.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> My second garage has Internet and TV, and the previous owner had flexible 
>> air lines that he took when he sold it.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Making a good sound dampening box for the air compressor would be high on my 
>> list too.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I currently want to do something like those plastic floor tiles that raise 
>> you up a quarter of an inch to let snow and water drain below the working 
>> surface.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> A lift or pit would be ideal, but my roof is too low and tearing up my floor 
>> isn't really in the cards.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Enjoy!
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 12, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Ken Bogart <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> When I build mine..   I want the following:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> - 2-post lift bay
>> 
>> - a walled and drained wash bay
>> 
>> - a work bay (machine tools, work bench)
>> 
>> - a room for hanging out with couch, tv, bar, bathroom
>> 
>> - open indoor area to park at least 6 cars
>> 
>> - a storage/parts area (in a loft?)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I figure this would have to be at least 2500sf or larger...  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Ken Bogart
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>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Helsel, Walt <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> So, moving to a new home.. going to have either an existing or built pole 
>> building for the car-addiction.  Looking for those of you with Garage-Mahals 
>> to chime in.  Right now I am working out of a 2 stall garage 24x24x8.  
>> Workbench in the front on a 5’ deep raised stoop, wood heated, partially 
>> insulated.  There is not enough width for working on cars with crap along 
>> walls (crap being a parts washer, bench grinder, shelving, etc) and it’s 
>> fairly crowded with all the big stuff (woodstove, engine hoist, engine 
>> stand, blast cabinet, drill press, band saw, table saw, 3 welders, etc) that 
>> is all roaming the space.  So, looking for suggestions and advice from those 
>> of you that have dedicated hobby space…
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Things you would do again
>> 
>> Things you regret doing
>> 
>> Layout suggestions
>> 
>> Storage ideas
>> 
>> Workbench ideas (location, layout, etc)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Anything else you think might be useful.  I would love to go to a 2 post 
>> lift down the road so I want at least one high bay for that, but for now I’m 
>> thinking something like this:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 28’w x 40 (or 48’)’l x 14’h
>> 
>> 2 stalls wide, with workshop in the front (away from the doors)
>> 
>> 2 overhead doors on short end, 1 mandoor, some windows of some variety for 
>> light.
>> 
>> Concrete floor and approach
>> 
>> 220v electric
>> 
>> Water if I am lucky
>> 
>> Insulated and heated (Michigan winters)
>> 
>> Will be wired for music, internet and phone as well.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> So, toss your ideas out.. I’m game to start figuring out how to set up the 
>> future work space!
>> 
>> Wallyman
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