thanks, tantek and others. i will go ahead and start the wiki process with some of the research i've done already, and will invite you to join me!
one thought about "role": is it appropriate to re-engineer the category from what is apparently originally intended as a relatively static feature (ie. "sales engineer" for a person or "green construction" for an organization) to something relevant only in the immediate context (ie. "notetaker" for a specific meeting, or "abstain" for a vote)? if so (sounds good to me!), then it seems that in various configurations microformats are being used in specific ways in which categories are expressed in divergent "dialects" -- ie. from a parser's perspective, a .hcard inside a .hminutes .participants (or whatever) is going to be expected to use "role" in a different way than an .hcard inside a .hresume, for example. i imagine this is want tantek means by outlining contextually appropriate values for "role"? finally, a last question: anyone heard of any existing sgml or xml or any other schema for meeting minutes, to avoid wheel-reproduction? good ideas for where to look? thanks, .b On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 08:10:29AM -0700, Tantek ?elik wrote: > Welcome "brush"! > > As someone who has typed up (and published) *numerous) meeting minutes > himself, I certainly recognize that this could be a useful microformat. > > Regarding creating a new microformat, please read the following pages > thoroughly: > > http://microformats.org/wiki/process > http://microformats.org/wiki/examples > > Then, start the respective examples page: > > http://microformats.org/wiki/meeting-minutes-examples > > and let folks on the list know that you have done so, and invite others to > help document and analyze the examples. > > If you want to capture your brainstorms (e.g. your "sense is that it could > be as follows"), please do so on a brainstorming page, but keep in mind that > you will need to research and document real world examples on the Web and > pre-existing formats in order to give the brainstorms a good foundation, and > that as a result of that research, the proposals will likely change. > > http://microformats.org/wiki/meeting-minutes-brainstorms > > Finally, if you have any questions about the process, or how to proceed, > please ask on the list, and I'm sure someone will help you move things > along. > > Thanks, > > Tantek > > > On 5/3/06 3:29 AM, "brush" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > hello all, > > > > i have been perusing the wiki and related material recently with great > > interest. > > > > as a very brief introduction, i am involved in developing processes and > > relationships to facilitate decentralized organization of a social > > economy, or "open source" economy if you will, here in portland, or. my > > orientation to virtual tools to that end is to maximize smooth > > emergence and functioning of real-world networks and communities. > > > > i have been needing, then thinking about, and now working on a solution > > to a relatively large source of unnecessarily "wasted" labor: meeting > > minutes that are duly typed up (and sometimes posted to the web), but > > with no semantic content. > > > > meetings, for many organizations, are a deep source of meaning and > > structure. most particularly: decisions from meetings form the backbone > > of an organization's history and memory (not mention legal process), and > > action items from meetings (especially in less hierarchical > > organizations) often form the core mechanism of delegating collaborative > > labor and ensuring follow-through. > > > > properly marked-up meeting minutes would allow a fairly simple web app > > to automatically notify interested parties of relevant decisions > > (including in "proposal" form), to add "to-do" items to personal lists, > > and to provide archives that could be transected and analyzed in a great > > many ways more valuable than all existing archives i've discovered so > > far. > > > > i have not discovered a microformat, or indeed any existing schema > > (help me on this one, i'm sure i'm missing something), that addresses > > this opportunity. > > > > my sense is that it could be as follows: > > > > * hminutes root format > > -hcalendar for meeting location, time, description, etc. > > -hcard for organization -- maybe new class for "department"? > > *new microformat?: hparticipants (multiple hcards plus class="role") > > -- could be useful in many other circumstances > > -then multiple "content" items > > -could include "hchat" or whatever for transcripts > > -or "discussion" for general summaries of discussion items > > but specifically: > > *hdecision: include decision-type (ie. robert's rules, consensus, > > supermajority, etc.), potentially what the votes were (hparticipants > > with particular roles?), tagged subject matter, and result (approved, > > denied, proposed, tabled, sent to committee). > > *htask: hparticipants for who, tagged subject, dtdeadline (or > > reportback ;) -- maybe percent complete?, parent task somehow? > > (obviously, this should also work for project mgmt in general) > > > > [hdecision and htask could be standalone root formats -- some decisions > > come without meetings, and also, alas, do tasks.] > > > > what do folk think? is there something like this out there already? i > > know it's a bit of a big hunk to chew for microformats, but the potential > > is enormous: imagine if all your various meetings were reported in > > hminutes rss streams, that were automatically funneled into your to-do > > lists and important decisions flagged for attention and review? > > reminders and all. ;) > > > > i would like to implement something on this standard for our organizing > > efforts here, fairly soon. would much prefer to be with feedback and in > > direction of open standards. should i wiki? > > > > thanks, and blessings. > > .b > > _______________________________________________ > > microformats-discuss mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > microformats-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss _______________________________________________ microformats-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
