>> Who is publishing 10 columns and 100 rows of prices or something similar?
Ask, and ye shall receive. I have included four lists of URLs below my signature. The first list is of very large price lists from the web. Some are in PDF and/or XLS formats, but I would argue one of the things Microformats will hopefully encourage would be the publishing of these more things in HTML so they could be processed by machines instead of XLS and PDF (except of course in the latter case where the content is best in PDF format.) As I have mentioned before, I ran an catalog/internet retailer that sold software development tools to software developers for 12 years. One of the best things Microsoft could have done for us was to have published their product and price lists in a well known location with documented parsability. Sure we could find them in their ever changing locations and we could download the Excel files but we didn't have the skill to parse the info out reliability so we never did it. I can't tell you just how valuable it would have been for us if they had just published in an HTML format with something like Microformats. It would have saved us literally tens of thousands of dollars over the years. BTW, publishing it as lots of lists would have made it much harder for us to get to it. One file would have been best. And we'd have downloaded it nightly. Moving on... The second list is price lists that are large but not incredibly large. The third list include landing pages that link to multiple price lists. And the last is just a large variety of price lists from various sources that I thought might be useful if anyone is wanting to see how price lists are organized w/o having to go look for them. -Mike P.S. Sorry my examples are so US & Euro centric, but I can't read anything but English and Google filters out stuff I probably can't read anyway. :) LARGE-SIZED PRICE LISTS (VARIOUS FORMATS) ========================================= https://partner.microsoft.com/download/US/40018463 http://www.oxfordjournals.org/access_purchase/2007/institution_price_list.ht ml http://www.oxfordjournals.org/access_purchase/2007/personal_price_list.html http://www.springer.com/cda/content/document/cda_downloaddocument/Springer%2 0Journals%20Price%20List%202007%20EUR.xls?SGWID=0-0-45-310891-0 http://www.sagepublications.com/INSTPRICELIST.pdf http://www.oceanoptics.com/Products/pricelist102006.pdf http://www.hhhh.org/cloister/pricelists/current-magic http://support.dialog.com/pricing/dialogselect/dsel_prices.pdf http://www.blackwellpublishing.com/cservices/pricelist.pdf http://www.wiley-vch.de/pdf/Wiley_Pricelist_2007.pdf http://www.softwarespectrum.com/microsoft/Advisor/docs/EA_Perpetual_Listed_U S_PriceList.xls http://www.smalldog.com/SmallDogPriceList.txt MEDIUM-SIZED PRICE LISTS (VARIOUS FORMATS) ========================================== http://www.behringer.com/02_products/pricelistDetails.cfm?lang=ENG&cid=US http://www.sbig.com/sbwhtmls/Pricelist_u.htm http://www.sedo.com/search/searchresult.php4?tracked=&partnerid=&language=us &cat=0 http://www.itd.umich.edu/sw-info/microsoft/products/ http://w.hansa.ee/eng/hinnakiri.html http://www.pugh.co.uk/Products/adobe/adobe_pricing.htm http://www.asian.gu.edu.au/price.html http://www.sherline.com/prices2.htm http://www.palgrave-journals.com/pal/pal5274journals_price_list_2007.pdf http://www.synthax.com/pricelist.html http://h71016.www7.hp.com/html/hpremarketing/daily.asp?jumpid=re_R295_store/ buspurchase-refurbished/all/price-list http://www.doepfer.de/preise.htm PAGES CONTAINING LINKS TO MULTIPLE PRICE LISTS ============================================== http://www.springer.com/east/home/librarians/price+lists?SGWID=5-40585-12-30 1699-0 http://www.oracle.com/corporate/pricing/pricelists.html http://www.novell.com/licensing/price/index.html http://lysander.sourceoecd.org/vl=2809177/cl=11/nw=1/rpsv/pricelist.htm http://lysander.sourceoecd.org/upload/enset_2007prices.pdf http://lysander.sourceoecd.org/upload/enjournals_2007prices.pdf http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/micros/prices/index.shtml http://www.softwarespectrum.com/microsoft/Advisor/ea.asp https://partner.microsoft.com/us/40018460 http://www.wasatchsoftware.com/business/symantec.htm PRICE LISTS FROM VARIOUS SOURCES ================================ http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_609,00.html?re dir=CPPR01 http://www.qualitybooks.com/pricelist.htm http://www.adobe.com/education/purchasing/education_pricing.html http://www.lahey.com/lf71/..%5Cpricelst.pdf http://www.send2press.com/PRservices/pricing-chart.shtml http://www.cuteftp.com/store/pricelist.asp http://www.resnet.ucla.edu/pricelist.html http://www.treepad.com/pricelist/ http://www.uspto.gov/go/oeip/catalog/prices/priclist.htm http://www.pumpkininc.com/content/doc/forms/pricelist.pdf http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk/toolsToHelp/productPriceListCompare.shtml http://www.serif.com/store/pricelist.asp http://www.mcfc.co.uk/default.sps?pagegid=%7BDDFB039D-A90D-41E3-8A37-F3B4966 A98C7%7D http://www-304.ibm.com/jct03001c/services/learning/ites.wss/us/en?pageType=p age&c=a0006661 http://www.rosicrucian.com/docs/pricelist.pdf http://www.guitar9.com/pricelistinstr.html -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Reynen Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:52 PM To: Microformats Discuss Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Size considerations On Oct 18, 2006, at 6:34 PM, Mike Schinkel wrote: > The following is 6 characters: > > $54.97 > > This is 151 characters (according to MS-Word's stats dialog): > > <span class="money"> > <span class="symbol" title="dollar">$</span> > <abbr class="currency" title="USD"> > <span class="amount">54.97</span> > </abbr> > </span> > > So let's think about a price matrix with 10 columns and 100 rows. > Without > markup it would be 6000 bytes or 5.85Kb just for the 1000 prices. > With > markup it would be 151,000 bytes, or 147.5Kb just for the prices. Who is publishing 10 columns and 100 rows of prices or something similar? It would be helpful to look at some real-world markup so we can come up with practical ways to address this concern. If it's in rows and columns, I would assume each price to be in a <td>, so <span class="money"> becomes just <td class="money">, removing 14 characters by my count. But it's hard to know if this is a realistic assumption when we're dealing with hypothetical markup. Peace, Scott _______________________________________________ microformats-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss _______________________________________________ microformats-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
