On Nov 14, 2006, at 3:04 PM, Scott Reynen wrote:
I'd say it's not a use case at all, as no on has really described how this markup would be used by parsing applications.
Does the "it's" to which you're referring, Scott, mean hCite for a reviewed book in general, or marking up page numbers specifically?
If "it's" means hCite for the book in general, I'd say it is a use case, from my understanding of hCite. Especially if I'd like to extract the bibliographic data of a book that is being reviewed. I assume that's how the markup would be used by parsing applications, but I'll leave that question to those with more expertise than I.
If "it's" means markup for page numbers, then I can see your argument. I'm starting to see that page count might be out scope, but I'm still open to it.
What exactly would we gain from this markup in terms of functionality?
If you're referring to my question about page numbers, perhaps nothing. I'm totally fine with leaving it blank, or not including it within hCitation; I point out reviews as another example of how they're used, so the community could consider it. I only want to make sure that, if in fact page count is out of scope, do we simple ignore it in the markup?
My understanding of why page counts exist in book review bibliographic information is that it is a legacy from older problems with knowing which book is the "right" book, or the book your referring to; I might refer to a version that has, say, 438 pages, but there might be another print run that had, for various reasons, 420 pages. This is so much a problem anymore, so maybe it isn't a problem for hCite.
If it's in a review and it's describing the item you're reviewing, I'd say it belongs in hReview's description field.
I completely agree. From my understanding, that information included inside the DESCRIPTION field in hReview could be marked up with hCitation. hReview isn't, however, listed in the "Modularity" section of the citation page, though I imagine it could be.[1]
Is there a reason why hCite could not be used in a book review marked up in hReview?
If there is a need to describe page count more specifically, I'm still not clear what it is. Searching books by page count?
If marking up content to make it searchable is the primary purpose of hCitation, then I'd agree that page count is out of scope. This leads me to ask: is this the primary purpose of hCitation to mark up searchable information? I'm not sure that people search solely by other information that is included in hCitation (publisher, location of publisher,volume,edition).
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