On 11/15/06, Scott Reynen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

...
> If I were to quote something specific, or refer to a specific idea
> or statement in a journal article on page 40, I would use some
> variation of the following:
>
> John Doe, "Lorem Ipsum Dolor," _Sit Amet_ vol. 81, no. 3 (2000), 40.
>
> If, however, I would want to refer to the entire article, I would
> use the following:
>
> John Doe, "Lorem Ipsum Dolor," _Sit Amet_ 81, no.3 (2000), 37-65.
>
> I don't see how leaving pages as a simple string can account for
> this difference. I wouldn't want a parser to say that the article
> is only one page long, and that it exists only on page 40 of a
> journal.

I think the idea is that the parser isn't saying much of anything
about the pages, just that a given string is a textual description of
them, and a human reader needs to take it from there.

This is kind of tricky though. Jeremy is showing a style common in
history, where citations are represented as notes. So in an
author-date style, his example might be (Doe, 2000:4).

A "page" in that context is simply not the same as a page in a full
bibliographic entry. You'd have to call it "cited-pages" or some such.

...

> I'm not really sure offhand how to remedy this, but I'll certainly
> think about it and offer up whatever I come up with. (I've tended
> to do that on this list; raise questions without offering much on
> solutions. My apologies.) Does anyone else have thoughts about this?

There are specific formatting rules for page ranges in various formal
citation styles, right?

Right.

Are they clear and consistent enough that we
can just adopt one of those for page ranges?

Here's a problem: there are different algorithms to collapse page
ranges. E.g. "120-129" --> "120-9". Chicago actually lists the rules.

...

class="month", etc. markup.  And for syntax that doesn't follow a
given syntax standard, we could use <abbr> just like with the date
syntax standard, e.g. <abbr class="pages" title="20-30">20 to 30</abbr>.

+1

Bruce
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