On Feb 1, 2007, at 11:20 AM, Joe Andrieu wrote:

Tantek, et Cabal,

From the last blat of messages from Andy, I'm presuming that he is still
being moderated?

I don't know the answer to that question. I would only presume that Andy believes he is still being moderated, but I don't know how he'd know that unless he were still sending inappropriate messages to the list, in which case, wouldn't that be a good indication that moderation is still needed?

That punishment was to be for only a week.

Moderation should not be used as punishment, and I don't believe that was the intent here.

On Jan 3, 2007, at 6:01 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote:

I am sorry to do this, but your continued inability to listen to the
requests that have been made, and your continued flood of meta- discussion emails on the list have left me no other choice in order to maintain the
quality of discussion on this list.

Maintaining the quality of discussion on this list seems a good goal, and moderation seems to be a good means of achieving that goal.

As far as timetables, as I recall there was discussion of *banning* Andy for one week. That was instead changed to moderation, which requires more work by admins, but allows Andy to continue posting appropriate messages to this list. There was no suggestion made about the length of this moderation.

On Jan 3, 2007, at 6:01 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote:

absent any objections from anyone else on the
list (or IRC), you will shortly be banned from the mailing-list for a week.

On Jan 3, 2007, at 7:42 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote:

Thus I have moderated him instead of banning him.

Joe wrote:

And if he is still
being moderated, I would kindly ask that you allow him to post without
restriction.

I'm not clear on the perceived damage of long-term moderation. If it allows the good stuff in and keeps the bad stuff out, I see no harm. If it's keeping good stuff out, I would be very interested in seeing some of this good stuff that was kept out, as it would cause me to question moderation itself, regardless of length.

Peace,
Scott
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