Hi Joe,

On Feb 2, 2007, at 8:22 AM, Joe Andrieu wrote:
Third, although few people like a gadfly, it appears that my efforts are
making some sort of difference, as evidenced by the IRC above and
changes to the wiki. Following Ben's argument, all evidence suggests my
opposition is "working".

That said, I do take your criticisms to heart and will make an effort to
be more diplomatic.  I think there is an opportunity for uF to thrive.
It is instead alienating, based on feedback I've received, not only from
Andy, and not only through this list. We can do better.

I do welcome your efforts to be a gadfly, and I welcome even more your commitment to be more diplomatic. :-)

I also encourage people to post suggestions/votes/data on the relevant wiki pages, to help push us towards a constructive solution:

* http://microformats.org/wiki/faq#Q:_Who_controls_microformats.3F
* http://microformats.org/wiki/issues#Governance_Issues

I would also like to revive the idea of a "meta-discuss" list to handle governance and other non-technical issues. This appears to be off-topic for the current wiki page on mailing lists for new micorformats:

* http://microformats.org/wiki/mailing-lists-proposals#microformats-meta

So, can anyone suggest the appropriate venue for proposing/discussing that?

-- Ernie P.



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