The problem with geo is that it is horrible to show in a UI

Mike: I think we should still try to support geo. Exposing the user to geographic coordinates isn't ideal, but I think that it is considerably better than hiding the action entirely.

I've been talking to Mike Beltzner (UX lead at Mozilla) about microformats UI over the last week, and we are now considering a UI similar to the one Pelle proposed (http://pelle.vox.nu/koncept/ locationBarMenu_pelle_small.jpg), in addition to the mouse cursor change.

Regarding the mystery meat navigation concern: I think this is fair, but I would say it is the web site's fault instead of the browser's fault. I think web sites should be encouraged to add UI elements for the user to click on to invoke an action on a microformat, similar to the RSS icons and links that currently appear on web sites. The reason we are changing the mouse cursor is because that's the only part of the UI we control in the content area, we really can't start injecting affordances.

We are also thinking about using the cursor change for other types of content handling, like links with specific protocols (mailto:, webcal:, etc.) and files that will either download or launch a particular application. So this UI is not specific to microformats, but content handling in general.

-Alex



On Jun 7, 2007, at 2:00 PM, Colin Barrett wrote:

It would be nice though, to be able to take something marked up with geo and have it generate KML and get handed off to Google Earth or to have it open up Google Maps (with the web-app content handler stuff in the WHATWG webapp proposal).

-Colin

On Jun 7, 2007, at 11:04 AM, Mike Kaply wrote:

The problem with geo is that it is horrible to show in a UI. The
microformat only specifies a lat/long (no title) and there is no
guarantee there is anything interesting to show in the UI.

For a typical end user, geo just doesn't make a lot of sense. It's a
"geek" feature.

You will be able to add geo support similar to how Operator works,
with a user script.

Mike

On 6/7/07, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike
Kaply <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes

>> One last thing, are there any thoughts on which microformats would be >> supported by the Firefox UI? Would it be all of them? Maybe it would
>> only be those that are specs and not drafts?
>
>Yes. At this point it will probably be hCard, hCalendar, Address and
>maybe geo.

Why only "maybe" geo? I think there is a strong case for including geo,
especially once KML and GPX export are available.

Where is this being discussed, and how is it best to make one's views
known, or to "vote"?

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Andy Mabbett
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