To me, the issue was not about freedom of expression or lack thereof. It was about putting a damper on a bilious jackass attitude and behavior. I doubt the actual topic of discussion was in question.
Yeah, we all could probably benefit from a good social behavior class (ok, I can't _really_ speak for everyone) , but personal insults, insinuations, and conspiracy-mongering are clearly out of line. :DG< On 8/2/07, Ben Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Once again, there is the impression that microformats fora are being run > > > by an unelected cabal, using arbitrary, personal interpretations of > > > vague and unwritten "rules", applied with no sense of even-handedness. > > > Still, I suppose that's easier than actually addressing the governance > > > and rights issues which I and others have raised. > > Apparently they travel in black helicopters too > > I don't think we should make light of this point. I've heard several > people cite this impression as the reason they don't contribute to > microformats. If we can't address the problem then I don't see how we > can attract and retain active members. > > More than once I've observed unresolved discussions cut off with a > post saying "wiki updated, issue closed". So, why would someone take > time out of their day to contribute to a discussion if they expect to > be ignored? > > To put it another way, if the core group is going to do as it pleases > regardless of community discussion, why are the rest of us here? > > The core group is not a defined/invited/elected group so it's not like > a W3C discussion list, where people understand they are giving > feedback but will not be involved in the final decision. The > expectation was that everyone could contribute, but that's not how it > actually feels. > > I am not trying to be troublesome, I am expressing a genuine concern > about this community. I don't think it serves anyone's purpose to > ignore what many people feel is true. > > The informal approach worked well when the community was new and > smaller, but now that it's ramping up it doesn't seem to be coping. > I'm not claiming there's an easy answer, but we should start by > accepting there's a problem. > > cheers, > Ben > > -- > --- <http://weblog.200ok.com.au/> > --- The future has arrived; it's just not > --- evenly distributed. - William Gibson > _______________________________________________ > microformats-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss > _______________________________________________ microformats-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
