In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tantek Çelik
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
properties!=values. types/schema are not "just as much" data.
You seem to be making unsubstantiated assertions and arbitrary
distinctions.
Please stop making the assumption of lack of foundation logical flaw.
I made no "logical flaw". You posted assertions; and made no attempt to
substantiate them.
http://microformats.org/wiki/mailing-list#Avoid_logical_flaws
<http://microformats.org/wiki/logical-flaws#Assumptions_of_lack_of_foundatio
n_or_justification>
Posting URLs of your own assertions on the wiki as though they were
evidence contributed little to the debate.
The distinction of properties, values, types, schema etc. are well
documented computer science terms.
Rather than asserting "unsubstantiated assertions and arbitrary
distinctions", if you don't understand such distinctions, ask.
I understand, thank you. That does not mean that I agree with your use
of the terms.
One way to
learn more about such distinctions is to pick up a book or two on computer
science and data structure and learn about them.
Yes; they told me that a few years before they awarded me my degree in
the subject.
Your "snarky" comment, against your own policy, also adds little to the
debate.
Consider:
street- vs. extended- address
sub-properties of adr property
given- vs. additional- name
sub-properties of n property
work- vs. home- tel
*values* for 'type' sub-property of tel property.
Arbitrary distinctions.
These distinctions come from RFC 2426 as well as
http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-design-methodology
Read both carefully to understand these distinctions better.
I'm fully aware of both the source and meaning of those terms.
On 1/7/08 4:59 PM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tantek Çelik
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
Mostly microformats just markup existing data in the page so that
machines can find it and know what type of data it is.
<theoretical example deleted>
The examples were not theoretical, but real (though surname changed out
of courtesy to the person concerned.
The "given" and "additional" names are not indicated on the page; not
even by context.
Hence why microformats focus on real world examples on the web that are
also *common*.
And people *commonly* publish what are clearly and unambiguously (to
humans, but not, without the additional mark-up of a microformat, to
machines) home or work telephone numbers, without saying as much on the
page.
Same thing. needs real world example URL. please document on hcard-issues.
OFFS!
<http://tinyurl.com/2w4r3v>
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Andy Mabbett
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