On 24/04/07, Manu Sporny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Danny Ayers wrote: >> On Apr 22, 2007, at 10:12 PM, Manu Sporny wrote: >> >> > I propose that we use this collection-design-pattern mentioned >> > above for >> > specifying all collections due to the following advances over all >> > of the >> > other proposed methods: > > Nice idea, but I believe it's redundant. HTML already has collections, > ordered and unordered.Yes, you are correct according to your definition of a collection. The problem I'm describing is a little deeper than that... Apologies, I wasn't clear enough when it came to defining what a collection was... here are the definitions: collection: a non-localized, unstructured grouping of items. list : a localized, structured grouping of items. A list is a subtype of a collection - the ontology would look something like this: + - grouping + - collection + - list HTML does provide lists - but that is only a sub-set of the 'grouping' problem.
Hmm, <ul> is semantically an unordered grouping...
> (which re-raises the question of whether class="xoxo" is desirable) xoxo is desirable when you have two lists of items listed in a single Microformat <div>. If you want the first one included in the grouping, but don't want the second one - then you need something like xoxo. In other words - we want to be explicit, not implicit, about what is included in a uF and what is not.
I take your point, though I would have thought it better to use something like: <div class="this_is_a_microformat"> <ul class="class_of_the_items"> ...
The following is needed beyond the examples you gave: - The ability to relate items that are not local to one another in an HTML page.
doesn't this do that: <ul> <li>here</li> <li><a href="#elsewhere">an item</a></li> </ul>
- The ability to relate items on an unstructured basis.
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean - isn't a collection a structure by definition? Cheers, Danny. -- http://dannyayers.com _______________________________________________ microformats-new mailing list [email protected] http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-new
