On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 15:40 -0700, Joe Andrieu wrote: > I would like to suggest "audio-title". > > "title" itself is already defined elsewhere, in an incompatible way. > > "summary" is inaccurate. Many titles are not summaries in any sense of the > word: > > "Hey Joe" - Jimi Hendrix > "Beethoven's Ninth Sympony" - Beethoven > "Rainy Day Women #12 and 35" - Bob Dylan > "The Start Spangled Banner" - Francis Scott Key > > In contrast, one could easily imagine "summary" being incredibly useful > semantic HTML for podcasts or speaches, or indeed, for > summarizing spoken essays. > > Because "summary" is often incorrect and has useful meaning on its own, I > think it would be an error to shoehorn it into a > replacement for "title". > > In particular, an hReview that has a summary, is the summary of the /review/. > It would be confusing if it also served as the title > of an an audio clip being reviewed, which I think would be a natural problem > for an hReview that includes an hAudio. > > While hReview uses "summary" for title, it is understood that reviews rarely > have artistic titles (they are rarely artistic media), > and instead are usually titled as a summary of the entire review. > > Most artistic media, books, movies, poems, songs, and albums, on the other > hand, have titles that are artistic expressions > themselves. > > -j
I am presuming that the reason we have entry-title in hAtom and not title is because title had already been defined in vcard to mean something else, but there was compelling evidence to support a title of a different meaning? The evidence to support that we need a title in hAudio is at first quite compelling also, but I don't think it applies to an individual audio. I think an individual audio has artistic properties but also that the title is a summary of the whole audio, you gave four good examples of this in your statement. we gave an image related to hAudio a tag of image-summary which also has artistic properties but is a summary of an entire album or an actual CD cover. I suggested changing fn to summary because FN was confusing people, and there are still a lot of people in the real world wrongly misunderstanding its meaning as Full Name, and I also wanted something that meant the same thing but was also re-using existing microformats as per the process, and http://microformats.org/wiki/existing-classes summary has an already rich semantic meaning so I thought this would make this easy (hmmm) A last thought, If we use audio-title or any other derivative are we in danger of reiterating the previous problem discussions we had with work-title? -Martin- > > -- > Joe Andrieu > SwitchBook Software > http://www.switchbook.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > +1 (805) 705-8651 > > _______________________________________________ > microformats-new mailing list > [email protected] > http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-new
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