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From: Scott Reynen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: For discussion of new microformats. <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, August 8, 2008 8:19:50 AM
Subject: Re: [uf-new] New uF: Version

On [Aug 7], at [ Aug 7] 5:03 , Samuel Richter wrote:

> What about a version microformat.  Something like this:

<snip>

> for tagging versioned files.  Keeping software up to date can be a  
> major
> hassle.  By placing version information on download websites, this
> process can be automated.  Please respond.


Let's talk about the general concept first.  If it seems worth  
pursuing, we'll get into markup later.

I guess I'm not yet convinced by your use case here.  An application  
would periodically reload the web page for each application to see if  
it's been updated?  How would the appropriate web pages be  
identified?  Maybe you could walk us through the entire process of how  
you see this working?  And how would this system compare to existing  
software update systems?  Most of the software I use already checks  
for automatic updates.

Also, do you have any additional use cases in mind for this?

--
Scott Reynen
MakeDataMakeSense.com


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Reply:

Well, what I see is a consolidation of the update process.  First, it seems to 
me that having each software package with its own update mechanism is a 
duplication of effort and a not very efficient use of space.  Second, there are 
plenty of open source packages, Apache, PHP, etc. which don't have an automated 
update mechanism.  Third, by formalizing the version information for software 
packages on their web pages, an update service running in the OS could 
periodically check the web page for updates.  As far as real world examples go, 
there was an article in Dr. Dobb's Journal a few months ago featuring a piece 
of software somebody wrote to scrape version information off of these web pages 
using regular expressions (cf. http://www.ddj.com/architect/206503286).  This 
approach, however, is subject to breakage as conventions change.

In short, the immediate(?) outcome of having this type of microformat could be 
a centralized update mechanism which would be automated by a standardization of 
the version information.  Using firefox plugins like Operator, clicking on a 
download link with the version microformat could interface with the update 
server, register the software package with it, periodically checking the page 
for updates and making installations as controlled by the user.

-Sam

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