Dear Steinman
For this site you can use Kaplan or propeler turbine
also cross flow ( Banki ) turbine.
Dimitar
--- steinaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Site evaluation - help wanted
> (a folder by that name has been created for
> reference)
> Given this site, whats easist design to install and
> maintain?
> 
> An Engineering problem: 
> (I had posted this previously but got minimal
> response. 
> I hope I simplified the description enough for more
> feedback.)
> I have a good site, but not enough
> knowledge/experience to use it.
> My concerns are less to do with the electronics than
> with the site
> 'engineering'.
> How best to select the proper turbine, place it and
> channel flow to
> it. 
> How to do it in a low impact, low cost and best ROI
> way with long life
> and low maintenance.
> Once that's more clear to me I can focus on the
> wiring issues.
> This would serve a rural/suburban home about 100
> yards away which
> currently uses about 1000 KWH per month. Would
> prefer to 'offset or
> feed the grid' at first and consider batteries at a
> later date.
> 
> DESCRIPTION: (in Northern Ct., USA)
> A one acre manmade (1960s) pond, 17 ft at deepest,
> fed by two
> streams, 
> which outlets through a vertical concrete wier on
> the dam side. 
> The dam is earthen, the wier is built like a
> fireplace/chimney 
> structure standing about 14 feet into  pond from the
> dam base, 
> which is about 12' deep water at that point. (pics
> in folder)
> Water flows in at the top  through trash rack and
> exits from the base
> thorugh  a  24" concrete pipe running out of the 
> dam base.
> 
> The 30"x24" trash grate at the top has a perimieter
> of 108".
> All flow goes through that , nearly year round. 
> Flow over this varies from zero(some, not all
> Augusts)  to 3" most
> winters.
> I have used wier calculations and the  108"
> pereimeter to find the
> flow varies from 0 to 1700 GPM.
> Lets say it averages 600 over a year.
> There is a 10'  drop inside the concrete structure. 
> This is the maximum head I can achieve on my
> property.
> 
> Here are my primary questions:
>  - is my math right? I am not sure the standard
> 'wier' calculations I
> see, all illustrated as a board in a stream, apply
> here.
>        I.e. do I calculate flow potential correctly? 
>        (see folder's  excel file 'Hydrocalc.xls')
>   In that file I calculate between 600 to 3200
> watts/sec (gross)
>        at low (300 GPM) to maximum(1700 GPM) flows.
>     
>   - which turbine type  and placement gains most
> from this setup? 
>     Optimum solutions avoid draining the pond for
> installation, 
>          but  that's not out of the question.
>     -do I construct a flow diversion to concentrate
> woter flow over
>         a pelton turbine installed in bottom of wier
> to gain the most
>         available head, or
>     -do I mount a flow through turbine at top, or
>     -do I adapt the outlet pipe to take power from
> the concentrated 
>      flow there.
>     -do I drill a pipe through base of wier to feed
> nozzle(s) against
>       a pelton wheel installed down there  with the
> force applied by 
>       1 acre of pond surface 10 ' above.
>     -do  I increase pressure and gained energy
> output by channeling
>        the 108" of flow through  a pipe or sluice to
> the turbine?
>       or does channeling only help me attain the
> maximum potential of
>        the calculations? 
>       
>    Besides obvious differences in installation
> logistics are there
> major tradeoffs in achieved output?
>    
>    I think those are the most important issues for
> me to begin with.
>    thanks to all  in advance. 
>    Feel free to send directed reply
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) if you dont wish
>     to do  broadcast posting. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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