Dear Mario, As I'm reading the e-mails about your application case; other input is make a smaller Pelton turbine sized for your real site, and sell the turbine at good price for a site that fits best, and with more power. I'm builder of small Pelton turbines for range 10 - 50 kW in Concepcion, Chile and heads from some 40 m to 150 m. You can also contact Ing. Orlando AUDISIO and Ing. Ariel MARCHEGIANI, at Universidad del Comahue, Neuquén, for aditional advice. They have good experience in turbines design and application.
Saludos, Carlos E. Bonifetti ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mario Oviedo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [microhydro] Pelton resize > Thanks a lot for your useful responses, both Nando and > Thor... > I'm located in Patagonia (Chubut - Argentina), and > want to obtain 220V 50Hz. > Yes, the dimensions of the turbine are right. Sure it > has been designed for much more power than my hydro > resource can give me, but really is a very well made > machine and the price is not high. This is the cause > which make me to ask you all these questions... > The injector system has a servo motor which open and > close the jet oriffice, regulating frequency from > flow. The entire equipment for sale also has an > electronic system for voltage regulation and some > security options, monitoring and manually control > options from house. All in perfect state, and > guarateed from the present owner..!! > In it's standard state, the pelton shaft also has a > great flywheel which is a flat pulley drive to the > generator. > In case of decide to buy it, I think must rebuild the > generator pulley for the best coupling ratio, because > the increase of rotational speed. > I know this is a great machine capable to deliver much > more power than my site can, cost justify the > purchase, and I'm trying to take a good decision... > Your comments really helps...!!! > Mario > > > > > > --- HYDRO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > --------------------------------- > MARIO: > > Donde estas localizado ?. > > Why don't you think in a Turgo Turbine, it may cost > less than the one you > may buy. > > Check with Joe Hartvigsen his Web Page > http://h-hydro.com and his emails > [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] he sells them > in plastic and > stainless steel. > > Your site without calculating the friction losses > seems to have around 9.5 > KW and 19 KW respectively. > > Using the 450 mm Pelton data, the RPM may be around > 968 RPM for your > generator -- you have not indicated the frequency of > the generator and the > number of poles to define the required generator RPM. > > For this size it is best not to have multiplier belts > but a direct drive > between the Turbine and the Generator to save several > % points. > > I , at this time, will not spend my time in > calculating all the parameters, > since the Pelton seems to be for much larger power > generation -- can you > certify the dimensions of the Pelton ?. I wonder about > : Max buckets wide - > 120mm > > What type of ELC controller are you going to have ?. > > Others may give you more information. > > Regards > > Nando > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mario Oviedo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 8:42 AM > Subject: [microhydro] Pelton resize > > > > Dear microhydro members... > > > > I'm thinking to purchase a well made used pelton > > turbine from somebody who never installed it. > > Obviously, the problem is that the machine was > > designed for another head/flow parameters different > > than mine. > > > > Machine data: > > Runner diameter - 450mm (measured at the middle of > the > > buckets) > > Max buckets wide - 120mm > > Jet diameter - 45mm > > > > New site data: > > Gross head - 106m > > Existing pipe - 150mm diameter PVC / 360m > > Summer flow - 15 L/s > > Winter flow - 30 L/s > > > > My questions are... > > 1) Can I use it for my site with a reasonable > > efficience only reducing the jet size? > > 2) If no, which are the reasons? > > 3) If yes, which should be the new optimal jet > > diameter? > > 4) What may be the efficience lack? > > 5) What about the resulting RPM ratio at runner > shaft? > > 6) How many electrical watts can I expect? > > > > And any others comments will be wellcome... > > Thanks a lot in advance! > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Correo Yahoo! > > Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y > antispam ¡gratis! > > Regístrate ya - http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Does your company feature in the microhydro business > directory at > > http://microhydropower.net/directory ? 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