I don't think this is a power factor problem. 

My guess is that that the generator is "seeing" some of the switching 
as on-off, particularly at the lower power outputs while the 
batteries are topping off. The repeated intermittent "load drops" may 
be creating voltage spikes, "frying" the voltage regulator on the 
generator.  

I would try wiring up a load of say 300 watts of light bulbs and put 
them online as a base load for the generator while it is running, so 
it will never see a no load situation.

There will still be plenty of watts for battery charging.

Oso 


--- In [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I agree with Graeme regarding the hash the switched-mode/pwm power 
supplies 
> make of many generator outputs. The caps are a appropriate solution 
to the 
> problem. If the generator is oversized by about 75-100% the 
generator generally 
> manages to overcome the problem through brute force.  Thus if you 
are using a 
> 2500 watt generator to provide, say 6 amps/240V worst-case reactive 
power to 
> the charger then I think something else may be amiss as well. For 
instance, are 
> you sure you do not have other loads running at the same time? 
Washing machine, 
> fridge, pump? 
> 
> Rob
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Quoting Frank Leslie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Graeme,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Consider the difference between volt-amps that express complex 
power in
> > 
> > which generators are rated. Driving a resistive load, it will 
supply the
> > 
> > same number of watts of real power. A reactive load, usually 
inductive (like
> > 
> > motors or transformers), will require imaginary power at phase 
right angles
> > 
> > to the real power. The square root of the sum of the squares of 
real and
> > 
> > reactive powers yields the complex power that the generator must 
supply.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > If the Truecharge has a low power factor, say 0.7 (1.0 is 
resistive), then
> > 
> > the generator may be overloaded if it can't supply the complex 
power.
> > 
> > Capacitors added in parallel with the input can restore the power 
factor to
> > 
> > near 1.0.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > This is just a guess, as I don't know what the Xantrex power 
factor value
> > 
> > is. These are sharp guys -- ask them.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Frank
> > 
> >   -----Original Message-----
> > 
> >   From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > Behalf Of Graeme
> > 
> >   Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 11:38 PM
> > 
> >   To: [email protected]
> > 
> >   Subject: [microhydro] petrol generator problem - low voltage
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   I am setting up my micro hydro system. Until I get the 
generator installed
> > 
> > at
> > 
> >   the waterfall and the transmission line in place I am using 
petrol
> > 
> > generators
> > 
> >   to provide power to charge the batteries.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   The only load on the generator is a Xantrex Truecharge 40i+
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   So far I have had a Scorpian DY2500L replaced and the 
replecement repaired
> > 
> >   because of low output voltage (ie less than 200v instead of 
230v). I also
> > 
> > have
> > 
> >   two GMC 850W units that have the same problem.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   I have contacted Xantrex asking if the Truecharge puts a 
strange load on
> > 
> > the
> > 
> >   generator but they didn't answer the question.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   I can keep having petrol generators replaced / repaired while 
under
> > 
> > warrenty
> > 
> >   but I need to know the likely fault and how to prevent it.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   I do not want to have my hydro generator fail as it is not 
convienient to
> > 
> > pull
> > 
> >   out.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   If any-one has suggestions on likely cause and how to prevent 
it please
> > 
> > let me
> > 
> >   know.
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> >   Cheers
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> >   Graeme
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